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Dan W:
--- Quote from: DR4NRA on June 22, 2016, 05:26:47 PM ---Believe you are correct. As I read the opinion in 3 parts dealing with 3 diffrent scenarios. The city uses that opinion and your interpetations.
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So how does your opinion jive with state preemption?
--- Quote ---18-1703 Cities and villages shall not have the power to regulate the ownership, possession, or transportation of a concealed handgun, as such ownership, possession, or transportation is authorized under the Concealed Handgun Permit Act,except as expressly provided by state law,and shall not have the power to require registration of a concealed handgun owned, possessed, or transported by a permit holder under the act. Any existing city or village ordinance, permit, or regulation regulating the ownership, possession, or transportation of a concealed handgun, as such ownership, possession, or transportation is authorized underthe act, except as expressly provided under state law, and any existing city or village ordinance, permit, or regulation requiring the registration of a concealed handgun owned, possessed, or transported by a permitholder under the act, is declared to be null and void as against any permit holder possessing a valid permit under the act.
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DR4NRA:
--- Quote from: Dan W on June 22, 2016, 08:05:11 PM ---
So how does your opinion jive with state preemption?
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From state patrol web site
018.010
A place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permit holders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises.
As usual on this site, If someone passes on information garnered from fighting the city of Lincoln on this area due to a city park being built abutting my entire back property line I am told that state law preempts. The City of Lincoln does not share your view and as usual I get chastised. The opinion I stated was given to me by 2 city managers and the City attorney. Just because I was told that I couldnt carry a firearm past my back proprty line legally due to this park means nothing. Also as usual what is written on the web site of the state patrol and the legislature containing the above prohibitation/exception also does not apply to the city of Lincoln or the PBA JPA that controls the PBA cannot do this.
Also as usual you get snippy and lash out at anyone who trys to tell people to proceed with caution on city of lincoln property including parks as this is thier interpretation of the posted statutes. The CHP act will not protect you in the PBA. If you want to push it go ahead and be the guinea pig as I am sure that the NFOA will pay all legal fees and get the ticket or arrest expunged from your record. NOT as Nebraska does not expunge those records.
You should put on the rules that no personal experience on carry issues and regs should not be posted as they are completely inappropriate.
Dan W:
--- Quote from: DR4NRA on June 23, 2016, 07:45:46 AM ---018.010
A place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permit holders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises.
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You think this is snippy??? Debate much?
018.01O requires conspicuous signage as I previously stated... see 18.04
City of Lincoln is not the last word on concealed carry law, as Omaha found out the hard way
DR4NRA:
Dan, What is state law on signage?
Didnt mean to get your undies all bunched up.
DR4NRA:
State law does not mandate a specific requirement for a sign other than that it be conspicuously posted, the Nebraska State Patrol strongly suggests that a standardized format be utilized. The standardized form should contain a four (4) inch circle with a slash covering a handgun and text giving notice that carrying a concealed handgun anywhere on the premises is prohibited. A form will be available on the Nebraska State Patrol website which can be downloaded for printing. The Nebraska State Patrol also strongly recommends that a place or premises wishing to prohibit concealed handguns post the sign at normal eye level at each public entrance to the place or premises. Normal eye level is considered to be between 54” and 66” from the floor.
No state law mandateing a specific sign. Just be conspicuous.
Suggested sign by State Patrol but not required.
Suggested that sign be put at each entrance but not required by law. Sign in lobby and on Internet should comply.
Suggested to be at eye level, but Not required by law.
Since there is no LAW stating what sign, where it has to be posted, size of posting, or anything else. So I guess that by that I could find an employee with a nice ass and put the sign there and just have her walk around the store entrance all day and still be in compliance.
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