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Remember at the NFOA meeting when I said "get the gun out in time"?
Lorimor:
15 feet away, armed with a baseball bat, even a semi-athletic dude has the upper hand on you in that situation, regardless of your skills and/or armament.
It's not an unwinnable situation but darn close to it.
They've planned a very good ambush or you weren't paying attention. Or both.
At my age, I don't believe I'm going to outrun most folk but I can become a moving target. I guess I'd start sidestepping as fast as possible, drawing, yelling and hopefully bring the gun to bear in time and shoot if necessary.
But I just don't know if there would be time for all that if he's that close, moving fast and closing. :(
Hopefully the act of engaging in a defensive posture and starting a draw stroke alone would put them off.
SeanN:
--- Quote from: abbafandr on September 18, 2013, 06:26:31 PM ---Not a pleasant scenario. The truth of the matter is your chances (mine at least) of stopping someone at that distance with a handgun are slim and none and Slim may be on his way out of town. You would have to sever the spinal cord with a bullet to stop him. Most self defense ammo is designed to stop IN! the body to prevent collateral damage from over penetration. (Ask NYPD or any agency that has had problem with ball ammo injuring bystanders ) :o
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I don't know of any self-defense ammo that I would trust that is designed to "stop in the body of a bad guy." All of the ammo I would trust has made the FBI recommended penetration depth of 12" in properly calibrated ballistic gel. I wouldn't trust any ammo designed to "stop overpenetration." Decades of ballistics testing has taught us that any round that will not "overpenetrate" through interior walls or other "soft" barriers will not penetrate enough to reliably physiologically (in contrast to psychologically) incapacitate a target.
The reason NYPD or other law enforcement agencies have a problem with collateral damage isn't because of overpenetration. It's because the average police officer misses 80% of his/her shots when looking at officer involved shooting statistics. Whether that's because of inadequate training or lax qualification requirements is another discussion entirely.
I also disagree that your chances are slim to none... If you move away from your attacker and get the gun out fast and get shots on target, your chances are pretty decent. Obviously more range is preferred. But this is why we should all practice drawing from concealment and using a timer to get it to be FAST. Research has shown that to "win" in a self-defense scenario you really only need to do three things: React quickly, get the gun out fast, and get shots on target fast.
I know I need a lot more work. My average draw from concealment to first shot is around 1.3-1.5 seconds at a close range target... My holster is great for concealment but it holds the gun to my body so tightly that getting the initial grip on the gun is a challenge... It may be time to research a new holster.
SeanN:
--- Quote from: kozball on September 18, 2013, 09:49:15 PM ---Jimmy Johns?
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They'd probably get there faster!
bkoenig:
--- Quote from: SeanN on September 19, 2013, 09:28:54 AM ---They'd probably get there faster!
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As long as there's bacon on the sammiches. Bacon makes everything better.
I really need to invest in a training system like the LASR system. Practicing drawing from concealment and dry firing is great, but some target feedback would be immensely helpful. Just like in competition, you can't miss fast enough to win.
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on September 19, 2013, 10:54:52 AM ---Bacon makes everything better.
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Agreed. Stealing a partial quote from King of Queens..."I'd eat my own foot if it had bacon on it".
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