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Thune-Vitter Amendment Roll Call
Dan W:
Listen, the Dems have 60 votes right now.
They can force just about any Dem that needs money for a re-election campaign (all of them) to vote according to the party leaders wishes. Harry Reid is a relatively pro gun politician, and is in trouble in Nevada. He will allow a certain level of blue dog Dems to please the folks back home, as they mostly won their seats in a conservative campaign.
If you don't believe that political issues are manipulated in this manner , you are in for a big surprise.
If they were not sure of the votes, it would have been pulled from consideration. Ben Nelson and Harry Reid can pretend to be conservative for a day, But ,the party gets a gun control win, and the Brady campaign can raise some more money...
It just too bad that Republicans and Real Conservatives won't hang together like that
OnTheFly:
I agree that the parties have a huge influence over the Congress. However, I don't believe that they can trust the politicians to do exactly as they pledge behind closed doors any more than we can trust them to do what they pledge in public. Allegiances are always shifting with politicians. Sometimes it is to gain the support of their party, other times it is to please those who may line their campaign pockets, sometimes it is to gain the support of another congressperson on a bill/amendment they authored, and OCCASIONALLY it is to properly represent their constituents.
With such a dynamic environment, I don't think it would be anywhere near an acceptable comfort level to orchestrate this win within two votes.
Fly
Roper:
I tend to agree with Dan - 2 votes is as good as 20; all they have to do is make sure they have the 2 vote margin - they do it all of the time.
Dan W:
Word is Thune may try again because the vote was so close. Like I said, its too bad the Republicans can't or won't make their people hold the line
<--------extremely right wing independent conservative whacko
OnTheFly:
Why would he try again if it is so controlled by the Dems? I guess he could just be trying to look good to his constituents, but maybe he thinks he can schmooze a few more senators in his direction.
Fly
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