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JimP:
I was contemplating going to the Appleseed shoot in GI in sept, and was thinking about the price of fodder for 'ol Betsy...... even handloaded, .270 gets spendy..... not to mention thats a lot of recoil (wear and tear on me) and heat (wear and tear on ol' Betsy).

..... and No, I'm not going to use my Marlin mod 60....... seems to me that's cheating. 

...... I looked at CMP (Garands), but feeding those is about as spendy as .270......

...... and I was at TBH today...... looked at a used AR....... I never liked them much when I had to carry them for our Most Benevolent Uncle......... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT...... I liked that one.   Not everything about it, but I understood how it worked, which is more than I can say about the Garand (still WANT! Soooooo many guns, so little cash!).  If I HAD to pick up a fighting rifle, It'd have to be an AR, 'cause that's the one I'm familiar with....... sorta.

That's  where y'all come in, Great NFOA Hive Mind:  Tell me about your AR ownership experience- Colt? (spendy?) DPMS?  Pre/Post Ban?  Flat-Top? MIL-spec chamber (5.56/.223Win?)  Inform me, please.

SBarry:
Flat top carbine with a good aftermarket trigger, with an Acog TA01, 'nuff said.

Right now seems the time to buy, market dropped a bunch since February, get one HK mag and a few cheapies, you'll be happy. Check out AR15.com for all the discussion, you will start a s*&^storm on here.

I have three flat top carbines, and have had many more, from a JP rifle to an AR15 pistol and an AR10, flat tops and A2 uppers, they are all fun, just make sure you put a good single stage trigger in it.  Most are 5.56 chambered, but get a 1/9 twist for 55 grain bullets, unless you want to shoot 68 grain and up, then 1/7.

Dan W:
 Definitely go with a flat top upper, either a 5.56 or Wylde chamber. Barrel length and contour are very subjective. I like light weight A2 or Govt. profiles 16-18" long.  Brands I like are Rock River Arms, Sabre Defence, Stag Arms , Daniel Defense, Larue Tactical, Bravo Company Manufacturing(BCM).

I like 2 stage triggers on the scoped rifles, and modified single stage triggers on the 16". I use a Nikon Scope, an  EOTech halographic sight with flip up iron backup sights, one rifle just has iron sights.

You may be getting the idea... the possibilities are just about endless... that's why we call it a disease

JimP:
I am unfamiliar with flat-tops...... I would prefer to start my addiction with a GP gun: iron sights....... a chamber that would work with both 5.56 or .223 (thats the Wylde, right?)  

The .223/ 5.56 seems on the low end of the Ooomph Scale, as far as rifles go...... I'm thinking shorter barrels would lose some of the velocity that  Eugene Stoner sold the .gov on......

Q: Heavier bullets (term is relative, I know) require the faster (1 turn in 7) twist ..... 55 grains will still print reasonably well with that?

Q:  I was issued both M-16A1 ands A2s at various times..... what would a comparable AR run?

Dan W:
Wylde chambers are a hybrid that is more accurate than 5.56, but can still handle 5.56 ammo. It is not recommended to fire 5.56 pressure ammo in a .223 chambered rifle.

16" barrels can be very accurate, and you have to get a special tax stamp and BATFE approval for any barrel under 16". That is called an SBR (for short barreled rifle).

1/9 twist is perfect for 55gr bullets, and can handle up to 69 grain without issue. Many1/9  barrels don't have a very exact rifle twist, so they may actually be 1/8.5", which would handle 75gr bullets, or or 1/9.5" that would not. That is why one must test the barrrel for stabilization of the longer heavier bullets to see how they group. 1/8 twist is usually found in the stainless steel barrels, and the mil. spec barrels have a 1/7 twist

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