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Cathy1911:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-08-03-guns_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Just don't make the mistake I did and read through the comments while eating.  ::bleah::

armed and humorous:
Maybe I'm all wet, but I think anyone who rushes out to get a concealed carry permit because they fear more gun control is nuts.  If I really thought the feds were going to come and take my guns, I sure wouldn't want them to know I had one in my shorts.  I'd want as many unregistered guns as I could hide somewhere.  Now, as for crime, that may be another story as far as CHP.

wwhuskerman:

--- Quote from: armed and humorous on August 04, 2009, 12:55:29 PM ---Maybe I'm all wet, but I think anyone who rushes out to get a concealed carry permit because they fear more gun control is nuts.  If I really thought the feds were going to come and take my guns, I sure wouldn't want them to know I had one in my shorts.

--- End quote ---

I was thinking about a CHP for a long time, and yes, the last election was a key in my decision to do so. Beyond the other reasons I was thinking of getting one, I saw it as a "pre-emptive" measure against the likelihood of increase gun regulation. Something along the lines of "I'm getting it while I can." I've talked to a number of "gun department" folks at the big stores, and at the small shops, and that phrase is one of the most common reasons they hear from people purchasing firearms.

I have no doubt that our Dear Leader's minions would love to disarm the public, but barring a national emergency that "requires" everyone to turn in their arms (see: New Orleans gun owners after Katrina on a national level), they will have to do it in stages.

Stage 1: If they get ahold of healthcare, get ready for, "oh, you want to buy a gun? Well, you know that falls under the government's "dangerous activities list" that drives up healthcare costs, so the 40% tax will apply." (Seriously folks, they get ahold of healthcare and IT'S OVER.)

Stage 2: "Hey, guys... we're still having crimes involving guns, so yea... those of you who have guns and conceal carry permits can keep them... we're just not allowing any new ones", the hope being that will placate many people with a "well, I've got mine, better not stir the pot..." mindset.

Stage 3: "Well, crime just hasn't decreased like we thought it would... um, adds to healthcare costs, yea, that too... so yea, we're going to be needing all those "assault" rifles... then handguns, etc.

Oh, you'll still have your "hunting guns." That is... if they qualify as "hunting guns" (watch gun companies' contributions to the new "Firearms Regulations Committee" skyrocket to make sure THEIR gun is a "qualified by the government" hunting rifle.) And you'll have that 40% tax on your guns. And your ammo. And your licenses. And your accessories. ANNUALLY. Oh I know it sounds like a pain, but the IRS's new Form 93843 Gun Ownership form will make it easy.

Sorry if I sound like a conspiracy nut headed for the cabin in Montana, but if you asked most people five years ago... hell, last year, if the government could, in the span of a few months, take over the auto industry, start bills in the Senate instead of the constitutionally-mandated House (stimulus bill), create trillions in new debt, nationalize healthcare, change the 2nd Amendment balance of the Supreme Court, etc... most of 'em would've laughed and said "your a conspiracy nut, better move to Montana."

Seriously... I'm just spewing this off the top of my head... but I'll bet every one of these scenarios has been discussed at higher levels of government than I'd like to believe.

<puts tinfoil hat back on, returns to buying gold and canned goods>

armed and humorous:
I guess your argument of "getting it while I can" makes sense.  The reason that didn't really occur to me is that I'm thinking if they do away with CHP, they're not going to grandfather anyone in, but instead, stop it for everyone.  I'll concede it is possible your scenario could come into play.  I can't help but keep thinking that, if we (gun owners/2A supporters) are really as strong as we think we are, we just need to keep on top of things and make sure gun-control goes back where it came from (liberal a**holes).  If we're already in the minority, I'm glad I won't be around long enough to see what happens to the country once the liberals get their way.  If I'm not already dead, I'll still have a gun I can shoot myself with!

Randy:
We Pro Second Amendment supporters may very well already be in the minority. Living in the Midwest as we do and away from the overcrowded afraid to look people in the eye coastal regions, we are somewhat cocooned from the political left wing. If the liberals get there way it very well may be very soon. While I hope that day never happens I fear for my child and grandchild as to what may lie ahead for them. Thus I will fight the good fight as long as I can. Why shoot yourself when this is what the liberals would cherish for one to do thus supporting their reasoning. Save that bullet for more useful means. You may need to melt it for a fishing sinker or some other creative reason.

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