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Randy:
Forum member?s your opinions on requesting a State Unicameral Senator proposition a Bill to mandate specific no firearm signage and placement.
The current law virtually allows any signage stating no firearms permitted.
There are pros and cons to everything.
The Pros being that we would have a standardized signage and location of such for all to see.
Thus fewer CCP holders would unintentionally be breaking the current law.
The Cons are that it may bring additional attention to the fact that any business can post such a sign and choose to exercise their legal right.
Thus increase the amount of businesses where CCW is prohibited.

Current From State Patrol Web Site:
018.04 State law does not mandate a specific requirement for a sign other than that it
be conspicuously posted, the Nebraska State Patrol strongly suggests that a
standardized format be utilized. The standardized form should contain a four
(4) inch circle with a slash covering a handgun and text giving notice that
carrying a concealed handgun anywhere on the premises is prohibited. A
form will be available on the Nebraska State Patrol website which can be
downloaded for printing. The Nebraska State Patrol also strongly
recommends that a place or premises wishing to prohibit concealed handguns
post the sign at normal eye level at each public entrance to the place or
premises. Normal eye level is considered to be between 54? and 66? from the
floor.

SBarry:
I think the state should have the convicts make them in the pen. The signs would be all the same, have to be yellow (like the cowards who put them in their places of business), be about 3 feet tall and 2 feet wide, and cost about $300 each (about what it cost for a CCW permit). How many of the cheap Dims would actually buy them then?  Make them big, ugly and impossible to miss. Basically a big sign that says "We are easy to rob, don't worry about getting shot here!"

Here is another idea. Before someone can post a "No CCW" sign, make them take a class and apply for a permit, with questions about how they are going to provide for the safety of customers if someone comes into the business intent on causing harm. They would have to list all safety measures that are in place and prove they have the proper insurance to pay all medical costs and/or survivor benefits to the families of the victims who were disarmed due to their policy.

Sounds far fetched, but it is the same crap that we have to put up with.

ranger04:
Could not agree with you more. Make a GFZ then YOU assume any and all liability for any injury or death that occurs on your property. I think this should aply to cities as well.

armed and humorous:
Personally, I'd be more inclined to leave well enough alone.  At least in Lincoln, I haven't come across too many posted establishments.  I'm afraid the more publicity it gets, the more of them may decide to post.  Sure, if we could somehow make it a mandatory signage that cost the businesses a fortune to obtain, it might keep some from doing it.  But, that's not going to happen.  If they did make it so only one type of sign was legitimate, they would still probably make it downloadable for free as the recommended signs are now.

Also, with the current state of things, a CHP holder who goes in armed anyway might be able to claim they didn't recognize the sign that was up if someone uses a home made version or something like that.  If they are all the same and posted in a similar conspicuous fashion, it would be hard to claim you were unaware of it.

I'm not totally against the idea.  In fact, I'd have preferred they had done it that way to start with.  But now, I worry that any publicity would only create more no-gun zones.  Also, the signs recommended by the State only apply to CHP holders carrying concealed.  If we push them, businesses can also ban guns in any form or method of carry.  Right now, if you have your Glock on your hip covered by your shirt, and you come to a posted establishment, you could conceivably just tuck your shirt in and go on in (though I'd be somewhat surprised if they didn't either ask you to leave or call the cops - who wouldn't be able to do anything anyway outside of ask you to leave).  Well, I should say, the cops "shouldn't" do anything other than ask you to leave (assuming the management requested them to do that) since you have done nothing illegal.

Dan W:

--- Quote from: armed and humorous on August 05, 2009, 09:06:08 PM ---
  Right now, if you have your Glock on your hip covered by your shirt, and you come to a posted establishment, you could conceivably just tuck your shirt in and go on in (though I'd be somewhat surprised if they didn't either ask you to leave or call the cops - who wouldn't be able to do anything anyway outside of ask you to leave).  Well, I should say, the cops "shouldn't" do anything other than ask you to leave (assuming the management requested them to do that) since you have done nothing illegal.

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The following offenses are classified as a Class III Misdemeanor for the first offense and as a Class I Misdemeanor for the second or subsequent offense:
  Permit holder carrying a concealed handgun into a prohibited place or premises.
(See ? 018 in the regulations or ?69-2441 in the statutes.)

http://www.nsp.state.ne.us/Docs/Forms/CCW_Rules_and_Regs.pdf

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