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Offline JTH

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Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« on: September 16, 2013, 06:31:25 AM »
I didn't write this one!  (So it might be worth reading.)  Please make sure you read the article BEFORE you comment, otherwise you might completely miss the point...and then people will make fun of you.

http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/09/13/competition-shooting-is-just-like-defensive-training/

A very apt comment:
Eh, I think it’s just a strawman sales tactic. It’s way for tactical trainer dudes to say-without-saying: “If you’re looking for somewhere to spend your limited funds, spend it with us, not with them.”


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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 11:57:26 AM »
My favorite comment:

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Let's grossly over estimate and assume this works out to about one million semi-active shooter-competitor-trainees/trainers-whatever. There are 80 million gun owners and 40 million handgun owners in the U.S.

Competition vs. tactical isn't the problem. Getting tens of millions of gun owners involved in something - anything - is.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 04:39:56 PM »
I'm one of the 40 million and am trying to fit in a time to do either one of those.
"Well-regulated" meant well equipped, trained and disciplined... not controlled with an iron fist.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 06:14:16 PM »
One of the best quotes I've ever heard regarding this, even though I can't remember who it was from:

"I know a lot of gun owners, but I know very few shooters."

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 06:28:16 PM »
I like the competition.  It beats standing in a lane, punching holes in a madly dancing target (hat tip to sfg), while other shooters hot brass comes flying in your face, or worse   :)

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 06:31:27 PM »
I like the competition.  It beats standing in a lane, punching holes in a madly dancing target (hat tip to sfg), while other shooters hot brass comes flying in your face, or worse   :)

I hear you.  Even though I'm by no means a top competitor I like it because it gives me something to measure my progress by.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 06:40:25 PM »
Even though I'm by no means a top competitor I like it because it gives me something to measure my progress by.


My sentiments exactly.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 07:43:45 AM »
Again, I look at competition as a means of "stress inoculation."   It's also a reasonably good yardstick with which to measure progress.
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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 02:40:25 PM »
Sorry...I'm kind of late to this party, but I just saw this thread.

In my opinion, competition SHOULD be more like the real thing.  Combat rolls, oral knife carry techniques, one-blow disabling chops to the neck, and all the other serious operator techniques should be incorporated into the matches. If you can do this stuff, you aint just Sumdood.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2013, 08:14:03 PM »
All the tactical knowledge you need to know:

"It is better to avoid than to run; better to run than to de-escalate; better to de-escalate than to fight; better to fight than to die. The very essence of self-defense is a thin list of things that might get you out alive when you are already screwed." – Rory Miller

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 09:11:58 PM »
Sorry...I'm kind of late to this party, but I just saw this thread.

In my opinion, competition SHOULD be more like the real thing.  Combat rolls, oral knife carry techniques, one-blow disabling chops to the neck, and all the other serious operator techniques should be incorporated into the matches. If you can do this stuff, you aint just Sumdood.

Fly


After we all become proficient shooters we can worry about the important things.....like taming bald eagles and how to kill a man with just one punch.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM »
After we all become proficient shooters we can worry about the important things.....like taming bald eagles and how to kill a man with just one punch.

But---I want to learn how to kill a man with just one punch FIRST!
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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2013, 09:25:55 PM »
But---I want to learn how to kill a man with just one punch FIRST!

If we only had Chuck Norris on the forum.  He could teach us how to kill a man with just a look.

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Re: Competition shooting is just like defensive training...
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2013, 05:42:53 AM »
If we only had Chuck Norris on the forum.  He could teach us how to kill a man with just a look.

....and a roundhouse kick.
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