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So sent Cheif Peshong a e-mail....
bkoenig:
--- Quote from: AAllen on December 06, 2013, 01:35:37 PM ---Interesting idea, an individual suing the CLEO for a civil rights violation because they did not sign even though there was no information that the transferee would use the firearm unlawfully or there would be any law violation from the possession. HMMMM......
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I thought someone had tried this before and didn't get anywhere? Seems like I remember there being precedent.
It would be cool to team up with the SAF and lay the smack down on Peshong, though.
tstuart34:
--- Quote from: RLMoeller on December 06, 2013, 12:55:08 PM ---Certainly seems plausible. By refusing to sign is that infringing upon a persons 2nd Amendment rights?
Let's look at what the CLEO signature is suppose to identify. It is suppose to verify two things.
1. ) I have no information indicating that the transferee will use the firearm or device described on this application for other than lawful purposes.
2. ) I have no information that the receipt or possession of the firearm or device described in item 4 would be place the transferee in violation of State or local law
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That was a commit he made... he did knot know what i was going to do with the weapon. He has no reason to think that i am going to do anything unlawfully. To me it seems a hard point to fight in court. Since he has no information on the purpose of the weapon he does not know if it is for lawful or unlawful use.
Honestly i think the best way to get him is to find some people that he did sign for and get him on the fact he is Discriminating.
I dont know if that will even fly... you guys have been involved in plenty of legal suits and would have a better idea then i do.
Honestly i am with Robert right now. Lets see what happrnds with 41p and then join together and focus thw effort when it is needed.
tstuart34:
So last night I decided since everyone else was asleep and I had some uninterrupted quiet time I would start to work on a list of officials who could sign off on NFA forms. This list is some what specific for Lincoln and Lancaster County. But the state level Judges and State Police Chief will be the same for everyone.
So my List includes
Local PD
County Sheriff
State Police
City Attorney
County Attorney
State District Attorney
Lancaster County Judges (Total of 8)
State Court of Appeals Judges (Total of 5)
State Supreme Court Judges (Total of 7)
Once I get this Spread sheet fully filled in and formatted I will post it.
Does anyone know if I can send this list to the AFT and make sure that all of the people listed are approved signers? I don't want to put out any false info on this.
Also what does everyone think about sending out a generic letter to all of the unknown signers to find out if they will currently sign or choose not to? Just a simple yes or no with a return envelope to make it as simple as possible for them.
RobertH:
--- Quote from: tstuart34 on December 16, 2013, 09:30:53 AM ---Also what does everyone think about sending out a generic letter to all of the unknown signers to find out if they will currently sign or choose not to? Just a simple yes or no with a return envelope to make it as simple as possible for them.
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i would help, but i kind of want to see what the ATF does first. what do you think? should we wait 6 or so more months, just in case they do nothing?
tstuart34:
I am torn on to set back and wait or send out some letters. A big part of me wants to send out letters. Make it very simple and easy for them and do not bring up anything to do with 41P. This should not be a firestorm of letters just one very simple letter.
It should ask them if they will endorse a form for a sound suppressor, sort barreled rifle/shotgun, or any other type of National Firearm Weapon. Give them a short explanation what the purpose of their endorsement.
Thank them for their response. Ask them to sign below and return it in the preaddressed envelope.
Give them 3 boxes to check
1. Yes I will sign
2. No I will not sign
3. I need more info on NFA
Their Signature
I think this could be a very helpful thing for people in our area. Maybe someone does not want to create a Trust for NFA items. This may give them information that they need to get what they want. It is a little bit of work but to me I think it is some good info to have in our back pocket.
If anyone thinks I should sit down and shut up let me know. I am not trying to rock the boat just gathering information.
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