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NENick:
--- Quote from: Bucket on November 19, 2013, 10:58:21 AM ---I don't think spamming up their facebook page with pro-gun propaganda is going to help the cause. The same points can and should be made in a more appropriate manner. Turning their facebook page into a gun debate vs a place for them to market their business is only going to turn off the management.
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Ya, we can make it private so that there is no public relations disaster to deal with. That way, when they say they aren't changing their minds, it doesn't cost them anything.
Critter:
Well I didn't spam up their page....It was one post showing how I and many others feel about what they are doing. All you had to do was "like" it and move on unless of course you don't feel the same way. FB is a major way of life now and is a great contact point, my company even uses it. It is a great way to voice concerns and it's been my experience that the squeaky wheel get the grease. If you don’t stand up for your rights now, then you have no justification to complain about it when you lose those rights. I'm just trying to stay pro-active with this and do what I can to show my support. What would you suggest we do or more importantly what are you doing? If you don’t like what I have done, then don’t support it but don’t waste my time and others by criticizing my efforts.
Bucket:
--- Quote from: Critter on November 19, 2013, 01:31:47 PM ---Well I didn't spam up their page....It was one post showing how I and many others feel about what they are doing. All you had to do was "like" it and move on unless of course you don't feel the same way. FB is a major way of life now and is a great contact point, my company even uses it. It is a great way to voice concerns and it's been my experience that the squeaky wheel get the grease. If you don’t stand up for your rights now, then you have no justification to complain about it when you lose those rights. I'm just trying to stay pro-active with this and do what I can to show my support. What would you suggest we do or more importantly what are you doing? If you don’t like what I have done, then don’t support it but don’t waste my time and others by criticizing my efforts.
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By making one post advocating gun rights you are endorsing similar conduct by others. The post had nothing to do with the outlets nor did it directly address their policy or the current issues surrounding it. Facebook can certainly be a great communication tool, but communication involves both transmitting and receiving. The point I'm making is that there is very little chance your post will do much to convince anyone of anything, at least in that context. People go to the page seeking info about the malls, not a general argument in favor of the 2nd Amendment.
By keeping posts relevant and topical you have a much better chance of engaging people and spreading the message and building support. I'm sure the management is well aware of the issues, so who were you trying to convince? People going to the page looking for info about the mall and it's vendors aren't going there to be preached to about gun control and likely don't have any awareness of the issue. Imagine the young mom looking for info to plan Black Friday shopping only to come across some "gun nut" post. What sort of message does that send?
I think getting the issue in the news, writing to the management, or even posting your displeasure about the specific policy is all appropriate. I'm all in favor of standing up for rights, but this isn't a rights issue. It's a private property issue. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it just gets swapped out for another one that makes less noise.
Critter:
"By making one post advocating gun rights you are endorsing similar conduct by others. The post had nothing to do with the outlets nor did it directly address their policy or the current issues surrounding it."
I am endorsing similar conduct and it has everything to with the outlets and their policies. Tell you what, I'll let you contact the news and write management and this "gun nut" will just bug them on FB like everyone else.
As for your other comment, "The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it just gets swapped out for another one that makes less noise." <------Good Luck.
Bucket:
--- Quote from: Critter on November 19, 2013, 05:30:26 PM ---"By making one post advocating gun rights you are endorsing similar conduct by others. The post had nothing to do with the outlets nor did it directly address their policy or the current issues surrounding it."
I am endorsing similar conduct and it has everything to with the outlets and their policies. Tell you what, I'll let you contact the news and write management and this "gun nut" will just bug them on FB like everyone else.
As for your other comment, "The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it just gets swapped out for another one that makes less noise." <------Good Luck.
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You can do whatever you like, but you're kidding yourself if you think posting stuff like that on their facebook page is going to promote the cause or change people's minds. It merely plays to the the stereotype that gun owners are a bunch of obsessed, single-minded hicks.
I think you're fooling yourself if you think things like that have an impact. At best, you'll be ignored. Constructive engagement is usually the best way to communicate. Seems to me that the management of the mall was pretty reasonable when approached about the policy and decided to re-look at their decision. "Bugging" people on facebook might make you feel good or give you something to crow about to like minded people, but it it just adds noise to the grown-up conversation.
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