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First time carrying outside of Nebraska (Iowa and Minnesota)
Gumby:
--- Quote from: 00BUCK on November 27, 2013, 12:36:58 AM ---I follow the law, and will only inform if I am carrying. That's my choice and I am not advocating it but I just can't fathom telling LEO's anything more than what is required. It has nothing to do with my righteous and tender sensitivities and EVERYTHING to do with my my rights and following the stupid agreement I was forced to make to exercise my rights, to a T.
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My sentiments exactly, but not informing the LEO can just ruin your day. http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson/jackson-gun-owner-unarmed-unwelcome-in-maryland-20140112/... a Florida man and his family were abused for nearly 2 hours while on a Christmas trip that took them thru Maryland. His "crime"? Failure to notify LEO of his CCW. His "excuse"? He'd left his wee pistol in his home safe. The LEO's reaction? Verbal abuse and a 2-hour search of the family, their car and their possessions.
The article is also a good reminder to coach the family members about LEO encounters so that they don't add to the angst.
Exit question: The wife's failure under duress to substantiate the driver's claim that he wasn't packing was cited in the article as the probable cause to search the driver, passengers, vehicle and contents... if he had been alone on this trip, would his failure to disclose by itself have been probable cause to search the vehicle and contents?
Lorimor:
--- Quote from: Gumby on January 16, 2014, 03:13:26 AM ---My sentiments exactly, but not informing the LEO can just ruin your day. http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson/jackson-gun-owner-unarmed-unwelcome-in-maryland-20140112/... a Florida man and his family were abused for nearly 2 hours while on a Christmas trip that took them thru Maryland. His "crime"? Failure to notify LEO of his CCW. His "excuse"? He'd left his wee pistol in his home safe. The LEO's reaction? Verbal abuse and a 2-hour search of the family, their car and their possessions.
The article is also a good reminder to coach the family members about LEO encounters so that they don't add to the angst.
Exit question: The wife's failure under duress to substantiate the driver's claim that he wasn't packing was cited in the article as the probable cause to search the driver, passengers, vehicle and contents... if he had been alone on this trip, would his failure to disclose by itself have been probable cause to search the vehicle and contents?
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They tailed him for 10 minutes, then he was pulled over. I think his crime was being from out of state. The MA cop obviously had an attitude. When the wife gave him the opening he was looking for, then he claimed "probable cause."
Was he obliged to inform the MD officer he had a gun at home? What was his "failure to disclose?" What are we coming to?
As much as I despise our litigious society, I'd get a battery of lawyers lined up and sue the snot outta the state of Maryland in this case.
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