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First time carrying outside of Nebraska (Iowa and Minnesota)
rudy:
--- Quote from: Husker_Fan on November 26, 2013, 12:44:15 PM ---As soon as the LEO, in any state, runs your driver's license they will know you have a CHP.
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I'm sorry, but this is false. It may be true for certain states, but not all of them. For example, if you're a MN resident, have a MN permit to carry, and a LEO runs your DL in MN, it does not immediately show anything about a permit to carry. Permit to carry info in MN is in a separate database from the DL info. If the LEO wants to know if you have a permit to carry, they must search a different database.
Also, your statement implies that states share carry permit info, as though a MN LEO running a NE DL would know that the NE DL holder is also a CHP holder. I highly doubt this. If I am wrong, please correct me and share your source.
Husker_Fan:
I was only speaking for your Nebraska permit as I assumed you have a Nebraska DL. It is absolutely correct for a Nebraska issued permit and I would suspect is true for any other state that ties the permit record to the DMV record.
Yes, I have confirmed that the state of Nebraska shares this information with the database nearly every LEO in the country interacts with when they run your DL number. That database is even cross referenced to other forms of ID like your passport and is shared across borders as well. That's how Canadian customs knew I had a NE CHP when I crossed the border with my passport.
SemperFiGuy:
It's a very good idea to Always Immediately Inform the LEO about (a) your CHP permit and (b) your handgun, if carrying. Part (b) is a requirement for CHP holders in Nebraska. And certain other states.
Yes, I completely understand the Righteous and Tender Sensitivities of Those Who Advise Otherwise, but they will not be standing between the CHP holder and the LEO when the LEO finds out about either (a) or (b). Late at night. On a dark and lonely road.
Now, anyone who takes the position that he is not required to notify and therefore will not do so is certainly welcome to that position. And whatever consequences that may come with it. Some instructive YouTube videos w/Freaked Out, Ballistic LEOs help illustrate the point here.
FWIW,
sfg
abbafandr:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on November 26, 2013, 03:39:39 PM ---It's a very good idea to Always Immediately Inform the LEO about (a) your CHP permit and (b) your handgun, if carrying. Part (b) is a requirement for CHP holders in Nebraska. And certain other states.
Yes, I completely understand the Righteous and Tender Sensitivities of Those Who Advise Otherwise, but they will not be standing between the CHP holder and the LEO when the LEO finds out about either (a) or (b). Late at night. On a dark and lonely road.
Now, anyone who takes the position that he is not required to notify and therefore will not do so is certainly welcome to that position. And whatever consequences that may come with it. Some instructive YouTube videos w/Freaked Out, Ballistic LEOs help illustrate the point here.
FWIW,
sfg
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Even with my Righteous and Tender Sensitivities, I would inform the LEO. It might defuse a potential unsettling situation. In my (too few) years of carrying, I haven't had to declare yet. ;)
00BUCK:
I follow the law, and will only inform if I am carrying. That's my choice and I am not advocating it but I just can't fathom telling LEO's anything more than what is required. It has nothing to do with my righteous and tender sensitivities and EVERYTHING to do with my my rights and following the stupid agreement I was forced to make to exercise my rights, to a T.
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