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Cathy1911:
Bloomberg's organization wants to keep guns out of the wrong hands, all right.  To them, all guns should be illegal, and ours are the wrong hands.

We see criminals get arrested and then be back out on the street before the arresting officer's paperwork is done, all the time.  The national clearance rate for all reported violent crimes is a pathetic 44.5%.  Only 25.4% of robberies are cleared.

For property crimes, the rate is even worse, 16.5%.  And it's estimated that less than half of all violent crime is reported at all.

Add to that our officials telling us to just cooperate and not defend ourselves, and nobody should wonder why there are so many criminals.

bkoenig:

--- Quote from: FarmerRick on August 17, 2009, 05:45:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Hineline on August 17, 2009, 05:15:55 PM ---How about we keep criminals out of society.  If a person is not locked up then they should be trusted.  Why are we releasing people into society that can not be trusted to own a tool.

--- End quote ---

Because the libs think criminals can be "rehabilitated".  Hardly ever the case.

--- End quote ---

Slightly off topic, but I do believe if someone is going to be released from prison (and most of them will be, eventually) we have to do something to attempt to rehabilitate them.  Teach them a trade, get them an education, etc.  Most do reoffend, but without some life skills it's almost certain they will.  I'm in favor of tough sentencing, but at the same time we should be using their time in prison as an opportunity to push them in the right direction.  I guess you could say I'm in favor of the carrot AND the stick.  Eat the carrot or be beaten by the stick ;D

armed and humorous:
I generally believe in a "second chance" for many people who break the law.  There are all kinds of circumstances to be considered, including the severity and degree of intent.  For the most heinous, willful crimes, no.  Those criminals don't get a second chance in my book.  For the rest of "first time offenders" I'm okay with a reasonable sentence, and yes, they need to have something legal to do when they get out (though I don't know that it's governments' responsibility to provide that for them).  When they repeat the same crime, or move up the crime ladder, they obviously have no regard for the law, no respect for society, no morals, and no more opportunities as far as I'm concerned.  Hang 'em, and hang 'em high. Then bury 'em, and bury the shovel!  Or, if you really think it's cheaper, or more moral, keep 'em in jail for the rest of their life.  But, make 'em work for their room and board.  If you don't make prisons a place they don't want to come back to, they'll come back.

huskergun:
Good post Cathy. Anyone who has not looked into this group of Mayors needs to. They are all anti Second Amendment.
 Educate yourselfs and let Suttle know how you feel about him joining Bloomberg.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5099

Bloomberg Wants to "Counter" the NRA
 
Friday, August 14, 2009
 
It is old news to gun owners that New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is not a friend.  As one of the leading proponents of new gun laws, Bloomberg has already earned his place in the Second Amendment rights hall of shame.  But apparently, Hizzoner does not believe he is doing enough to destroy our rights.

On an appearance on "Meet the Press," Bloomberg announced that he would raise money to counter the influence of the NRA.  Bloomberg was on the show to trumpet the 39 votes he was able to muster to squeak out a narrow defeat of national Right-to-Carry reciprocity. (To read more about the Thune/Vitter amendment, click here.)  He took the opportunity to lament that the NRA has so much influence -- and took upon himself the role of countering that influence.

Of course, as anti-gunners regularly do, Bloomberg ignores the fact that the NRA only has clout because we represent the beliefs of tens of millions of Americans who oppose the anti-gun agenda.  Recent polling has repeatedly shown that the majority of Americans support the individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

And though it must be very frustrating to mayor Bloomberg, that support is growing.  A recent poll by Zogby International revealed that 83% of Americans support Right-to-Carry laws.  Bloomberg will no doubt continue to trumpet the 39-vote procedural "victory," but the reality is, the American people are on the side of Second Amendment freedoms.

Perhaps part of the problem is the inherent dishonesty of Bloomberg's position.  He claims to be opposed to "Illegal" guns, but his latest effort targeted the rights of law-abiding people who already carry a gun legally. To Bloomberg, any gun he does not like is an "illegal" gun.

Mayor Bloomberg and his group "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" represent a serious threat because of the attention the media will give them and the resources a billionaire like Bloomberg has at his disposal.  That's the money he is once again promising to use to fight against our Second Amendment rights.

Fortunately, America's law-abiding gun owners know how to fight the misinformation and anti-gun rhetoric of Mayor Bloomberg and his allies.  NRA will continue to closely monitor Bloomberg's anti-gun activities and will keep you informed about his efforts.

JimP:
"Eat the carrot or be beaten by the stick"

Problem there:  That is EXACTLY what Professional Voters do: sit there eating .gov carrots.

The carrot and stick thing is for mules- get them to chase THE carrot or fear being beaten by THE stick.  As used by the .gov,  they just keep shoveling carrots that we have to pay for, and threaten to use a twig .....

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