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Hurt and dissapointed... but very proud. Cabelas open carry.

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00BUCK:
Well don't expect warm and fuzzies from me when reckless actions like this taint the good work that so many do here every day. It starts with not even noticing the signs on the doors "Not to my knowledge", to stating law to them that has zero bearing on the situation, to not thinking about what those actions do to our efforts. I can guarantee that nobody at Cabela's (employee or customer) that witnessed that thinks better of guns or gun owners because of it. And that, sir, is what this organization is about.

ragedefined:
I wasn't using law to try and make them let me stay there with the long guns. I was merely asking them why I can carry my pistol but not a rifle in their establishment. THEY LET ME OPEN CARRY MY PISTOL I find it weird they wouldn't allow a rifle if they let me open my carry my pistol.

I apologize that I did not see the precious sign at the front door. I actually go to management and ask them personally. I also call the corporations that create the rules for the stores before I go there.
Open carry pistol is okay, so why wouldn't a rifle? didn't know I had to be specific on what weapon was going to be open carried. I don't want any fuzzy hugs or high fives no worries.
as far who I impacted... i corrected the guy at the front checking guns in to what was and wasn't legal. We also had a guy from nfoa who was at the gun counter telling us, in front of the managers, to keep doing what we were doing. Again you're just a big assumer. ask for specifics next time before thinking that your way is the best, get off your high horse.

DaveB:
Just what were you expecting? Were you purposely setting out to get a reaction? What would make you think that walking around a bunch of people with long guns would impress them? Just how does this negligent type of action help our cause? How does carrying shotguns and semi-automatic guns in a crowded sporting goods store make it look like you are protecting yourself from bad guys?

What you have done is get legal gun owners labeled as gun nuts or crazy people. I  personally don't care for that label and try to avoid it as much as possible.

The members of this forum work tirelessly to fight for our rights in Nebraska, actions like this could take minutes to erase the years of effort they have given. Not that long ago, Cabela's did not allow concealed carry. Who do you think got them to open up that far? I can tell you this, it wasn't a couple guys walking around with long guns.

 

justsomeguy:
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ILoveCats:
The reason why people find open carry of a long arm in an urban or shopping area to be pointless, tasteless and a "poseur" act - in the old French sense of the term - is best summed up the late, great "gunners' guru" Col. Jeff Cooper. Cooper pointed out that a handgun is a defensive weapon; one that you have with you "in case" you get into a fight. A long arm, he said, is an offensive weapon; one that you have with you when "you expect" to be getting into a fight. To carry around a weapon as a prop (presumably no fight was anticipated today at Cabela's - therefore it was a prop) is gaudy and disrespectful of something as wonderful as a fine weapon. This is not a modern, sissified point of view. I grew up in a time when we all had shotguns in our (unlocked) vehicles in the school parking lot because we'd hunt on the way home, and nobody thought anything of it. Shotguns and rifles were just tools of the trade for farmers and ranchers and were in the back of every pickup window in town. But even then, you'd have been a weirdo to walk around the farm store or CO-OP with one over your shoulder.

It's also strategically unsound because, for the many Nebraskans who are concealed carry permit holders, a person coming into an urban retail area with a long arm is exactly what they are looking out for.  Hopefully they are all smart enough to not go into what Cooper called Condition Red, but it would seem to fit his definition of Condition Orange. To quote him directly....

Orange: Specific alert. Something is not quite right and has your attention. Your radar has picked up a specific alert. You shift your primary focus to determine if there is a threat (but you do not drop your six). Your mindset shifts to "I may have to shoot that person today", focusing on the specific target which has caused the escalation in alert status. In Condition Orange, you set a mental trigger: "If that person does "X", I will need to stop them". Your pistol usually remains holstered in this state.

Thus, to intentionally cause people to be in Condition Orange to make some sort of fashion statement is also juvenile.

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