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sjwsti:
This is a body camera video of an officer-involved shooting from August 2013 in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. The Bonner County Prosecuting Attorney said he believed Eric Johnston, 38, intended to commit suicide by cop and determined the officer-involved shooting to be justified.

A couple of things to consider; 

1- Physical Condition
I say it in nearly every class I teach but physical conditioning is as important as practicing to shoot for self defense. Listen to the LEOs breathing after the shooting. There is an obvious adrenaline dump (SNS activation)

If we could take his pulse it would also be elevated yet he has done nothing physical.  This was also a slow evolving threat. Your physical reaction (fight or flight) will be more or less severe depending on the perceived threat. If this had happened faster and more violently the physical effects the LEO experienced would be much greater. Is your body prepared for something like this? You want to be in the best physical condition that your present medical condition will allow.

2- Picture yourself in a similar situation
Something goes bump in the night, you arm yourself and go searching through your house. You find someone standing in your kitchen with your carving knife in their hand. Are you going to verbally challenge them? Would you have shot sooner or later that the LEO did in the video? How close would you let someone armed with a knife get to you? Are opportunity, intent and ability present justifying the use of deadly force?

- Shawn

CitizenClark:

--- Quote from: sjwsti on January 17, 2014, 02:57:05 PM ---[...]
2- Picture yourself in a similar situation
Something goes bump in the night, you arm yourself and go searching through your house. You find someone standing in your kitchen with your carving knife in their hand.

--- End quote ---

That seems like what happened here... except that the person with the knife was the male who was—it seems—in his own home when a person with a firearm came into his house and shot him for an incident that was triggered by his failing to do some paperwork (and probably failing to take the first steps to make right the damage that he apparently caused to someone else's property in a car wreck).

*CORRECTION: It seems that the guy was at a friend's apartment.

RedDot:
Not sure how this relates to a home invasion shooting, unless we're gonna discuss his grouping on an 8 foot shot with elevated pulse...

If we're discussing police procedure, we can talk about body cam placement- seems to get covered when mike is keyed, calling for backup then proceeding into the house without it, threat assessment- seems like individual was only a threat to himself until officer added himself to the equation. 

DA seemed ok with it so I guess officer is lucky he's in Idaho. Close your eyes and just try to imagine the giant can of sh...stuff this would have opened up had it occurred in North Omaha.

Chris C:
What should the LEO have done?  OC’d the guy and hope that does the job and he doesn't get cut?

FarmerRick:
Not sure why it's NOT ok for the guy to cut himself, with nobody else in the dwelling... but it IS ok for the cop to go in and kill the guy because he might cut himself.


Can someone please explain that to me?

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