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Lorimor:
I won't post a link to it. 

I was driving yesterday and came to a light in heave traffic, 86 street in Indy at Ditch road. Light turns green and the guy in front of me just sits there. I wait 3-4 seconds then hit my horn once. Guy puts it in park and starts to walk back to me. I see something in his hand, not big enough for a gun so I figured a blade. I didn't want him trashing my car so I get out. He gets 3-5 feet away and lunges with what turned out to be a box cutter. He was trying for my neck but I jerked back, so he caught the side of my face, and pulled my S&W 9MM J frame 940 from my front pocket. I moved to him and had the gun inches from his face. I explained his anti social behavior was unacceptable and if it continued I would put so much lead in him he could use a appendage for a pencil ( site rules prohibit me from reporting the actual conversation.)

When he saw the gun he FROZE. There was a LEO across the street at the gas station who saw the whole thing. He hit his lights and rushed over. He drew his tupperware 40 and told the guy to drop the cutter and put his hands up. He told me to put the gun on the top of my car and step away. He cuffed the guy and called a ambulance for me. He called in the numbers on my gun and checked my carry permits, I have a few from different states.

I didn't want the ambulance ride, to pick up my car I would have to take a cab down town, $25-$35 plus pay impound fees, $100-$150. Hospital was less than 1 mile away so the EMT gave me a compression bandage and I drove to the ER where I got 35 sutures and gave a statement to the LEO that followed me there. They are going to charge him, early 20's guy, with felony assault, assault with deadly weapon and maybe attempted murder.

11:00 a.m. you just never know. I do now however if I wasn't carrying I would probably be dead today.

I spotted a multitude of CCW sins in this situation.  Glad the guy wasn't hurt more seriously but holy smokes!  I'm bettin' even the most basic of state CCW courses would have covered what to do in a situation like this. 

So many things wrong here.  :o

Discuss.

PS My intent for posting this is for educational purposes.   I'm not looking to trash or malign anyone. 

ILoveCats:
This is a fun game.  "How many screw-ups can you spot?"   :)

1. Honking horn / being impatient. (Wanna bet it wasn't a polite little "toot"?)

2. (Not explicitly stated, but implied...) Not leaving enough distance between you and the car in front of you to drive around him if he doesn't pull forward and gets out to confront you, or if a second car working in partnership with the other pulls up close behind you to box you in.

3. Getting out of car because you "don't want it trashed".

I'll let others take it from here.....

bkent:
Sticking the gun in his face sounds like a good way to loose control of the gun. Moving into him, instead of away, could also be construed as aggression instead of self defense.  Him posting the encounter on a forum isn't very bright either.

Kent

JTH:
Truthfully----this story really seems like a made-up "I wanna be a tough guy" story.   His entire attitude, the multitude of stupid things he did, several details that were gratuitous bragging....it all just feels like an "other people are telling stories showing how tough they are, I want to do it too!" sort of thing.

Have no idea if that is true or not.  But that is what it feels like.  If it IS true, there is a multitude of either stupid defensive choices or stupid "I'm a tough guy so I'm going to lie a bit here to make me seem cool" exaggerations.  I count about 10 at first run.

This would be a good example to use in a CCW class----"How Your Brain Can Make You A Dead Idiot" in one short story.

Hardwood83:
I have to agree it sounds a little too good to be true- for instance how fortunate a nearby cop saw the whole thing. I suppose I could check it online if I cared enough. But to your point, yes getting out to confront an approaching armed man would be foolish.

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