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Declaration when not carrying
sparky:
--- Quote from: DaveB on February 21, 2014, 10:34:35 AM ---Back to the gold star on the DL. I don't have one, but I renewed by mail without going in to the court house. I wonder if that may have something to do with it. Mine was issued 7/2012 so it may have not yet been implemented either.
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I just went to the DMV about 6 months ago to renew since I moved and my license has no star on it. Did I miss something, what is this star supposed to mean?
EDIT: Just went back and found the link. Nevermind.
Dan W:
--- Quote from: DaveB on February 21, 2014, 10:34:35 AM ---Back to the gold star on the DL. I don't have one, but I renewed by mail without going in to the court house
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Ditto
Mntnman:
That license was issued in December. His wife just renewed and has one, also.
Mntnman:
I get a new license in April. I already have to submit finger prints (hazmat), so i can assure you that I'll get a "star of David." It irks me that this is one of the states cooperating with the Feds.
unfy:
--- Quote from: sidearm1 on February 21, 2014, 09:15:32 AM ---unfy and others: No knock warrants are not illegal, see state statute 29-411. It reads in part: " if the judge or magistrate issuing a search warrant has inserted a direction therein that the officer executing it shall not be required to give such notice"
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Masked men in body armor and firearms constitutes an attack on my house. They can show me the warrant first so that no one gets shot, thank you very much.
I know that no knock has been heard by the 9th Circuit, but the decision is something that is quite silly and dangerous IMHO. Concerning this thread - where the intent of declaration while carrying is for 'officer safety', and what individual opinions might be of declaring while NOT carrying - plenty of folks (innocent civilians AND officers) have died during no knock raids.
Concerning the 9th's opinion, see it: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1925613501885957853&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr
There was a recent case where the raid happened and THEN the warrant was issued after the fact. Isolated case, I know - but still :P.
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