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Able to carry in any Omaha malls?
SemperFiGuy:
Westwood (not Westroads) Shopping Center at the SW corner of 120th & W. Center Streets in Omaha has standard No Handguns signs posted at all the entrances to their various parking lots.
However, they do not post No Handgun signs at the doorways or entrances to any of the individual shops, stores, movie theater, eateries, etc.
Whether this arrangement constitutes legal prohibition or not is unclear. Nevertheless, it is quite clear that they do not want handguns in their shopping center.
sfg
Dan W:
--- Quote from: DestrianShade on May 18, 2014, 07:58:21 PM ---There is no state standard for signage in Nebraska
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Not so fast...
The NSP administrative code for the Concealed Handgun Act clearly states in the Definitions:
--- Quote ---002.13 “Posted conspicuous notice” shall mean a clearly visible sign posted at each public entrance to a place or premises open to the public which shall clearly state that concealed handguns are not allowed in the place or on the premises. A recommended format for the sign can be found in Section 018.04 of these regulations.
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So it is pretty clear that every public entrance must have a sign that clearly states the prohibition of legally concealed handguns, and last time I checked there is no requirement on my part to research the malls policies before I go shopping.
farmerbob:
If they don't want lawful ccw in the mall they just have to put a sign on all the entrances other wise it's more like no guns at Scheells in Lincoln.
I was carrying in Westroads & Oak View one week ago, shopping with family. What struck me was the memorial at Von Maur.
The people that put up the signs that create the environment for something like this to happen, may not of pulled the trigger
but I find them just as guilty.
Destrian:
--- Quote from: Dan W on May 18, 2014, 08:54:49 PM ---Not so fast...
The NSP administrative code for the Concealed Handgun Act clearly states in the Definitions:
So it is pretty clear that every public entrance must have a sign that clearly states the prohibition of legally concealed handguns, and last time I checked there is no requirement on my part to research the malls policies before I go shopping.
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Sorry, I guess I did not explain well enough. What I meant is that there is no standard on what sign has to be used. Yes it has to be conspicuous and posted on the entrance, but it can be sharpie and printer paper if they want, as long as the meaning is clear. I agree that the policy boards are not conspicuous enough. I had to go actively looking for one and read the whole thing to find out.
wallace11bravo:
Conspicuous means I shouldn't have to go searching for it. So I don't. When you call, ask, check every entrance, or go digging into policy manuals, you are searching, meaning if you are "mucking" yourself, as it is obviously not conspicuous.
It also means you shouldn't call ahead, or ask them what their policy is. Part of carrying concealed is "out of sight, out of mind." When you put the idea in their head, you are often the inspiration for them creating a policy. Conspicuous means conspicuous, and concealed means concealed. Stop searching for signs and obscure policy, and stop announcing to every business owner or manager that your carrying. I have no idea what motivates either action.
If you want to see uniform signage passed, contact the BoD of the NFOA and the NFOA-PAF, and ask what you can do to help 1.) get the right people in the right places, 2.) motivate those people to present and push NFOA backed bills, and 2.) get those other people to support NFOA backed bills.
Uniform signage should be easy compared the all the pipe dream bills, and with any luck, could make a whole slew of non-carry places now open to business for 2A supporters like you.
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