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Bar/gun range?
bkoenig:
--- Quote from: feralcatkillr on April 24, 2014, 11:29:56 AM ---That's a good post. There's a curious cultural issue here too. Having moved to Nebraska it's interesting being in one of those parts of the world where many people still have the opinion that a person is either a teetotaler or a drunkard and there's no in-between. Or that if a person is drinking, he is drunk... Again no middle ground. Or spending $80 on drink means a pickup bed full of Busch Lite Draft to be consumed on Monday morning before work rather than one bottle of Aberlour A'bunadh that you'll nurse evenings by the fireside through the winter months.
In one overseas job one of my junior employees had a full bar in his cubicle on the work floor and it was pretty much normal. In Germany our movie theater had a nice bar in the lobby, but admittedly the attitude was different--you could get a $20 cocktail but not a plastic cup of bland corn-based beer which is probably what the Lincoln theater will serve once that battle is over. But I don't recall drunk driving, etc being as big of an issue there, because they were Germans and Germans are generally fanatical about following rules.
I'd sort of like the US to go in the direction of thinking about alcohol more maturely and not operating on the assumption that everyone is an out-of-control idiot incapable of discretion and self control.
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When I was in high school (man, that was a long time ago) we had an exchange student from Germany. She said she would often go out for a beer after school with her friends back home. The difference between Germany and the U.S. was those 18 year old kids were being responsible about it and not getting blasted every night...probably because they were being treated as adults, not as kids who had to sneak around to taste the forbidden fruit. Without the cultural stigma attached to it alcohol was no big deal, just something to be used responsibly.
And as I sit here typing this I'm drinking a beer at my desk at work. :)
Jesse T:
I had no idea so many ranges allowed alcohol. And it does make sense to me, to trust people to police themselves and be smart about things. For me I could not care less if the gun range has shots after every magazine! I just think the business liability is a huge thing when allowing this, let alone the potential negative press! Everyone knows alcohol and firearms are a bad match if used irresponsibly. But when someone does use them irresponsibly, the media, leftists, all the people that read the story, they won't blame the PERSON who acted wrongly, they will blame the business establishment that created those conditions. The actor never gets blamed! Same goes for shootings (the gun gets blamed), Fat people (soft drinks, desk jobs, enabling family members get blamed), and so on and so on.
I'm not saying its right but we do live in a world where we unfortunately (due to lawyers and a litigious society mostly) have to "protect people from themselves". And I hate to see a good gun range go out of business because some idiot got wasted and shot something/one he wasn't supposed to.
DenmanShooter:
Just got a new riding lawn mower and used it for the first time today.
If you are mowing and want to back up, the blades disengage.
According to the manual, to mow in reverse, STOP, look around and behind you, hold your fingers under the blade engage button, press the reverse pedal.
So I am mowing in reverse one handed because some idiot jackass somewhere ran over something or someone mowing backwards and some lawyer saw big bucks because you shouldn't be able to do that.
Why do we have to build things for the lowest common denominator? If you are an adult, you are responsible for your own actions. If you want to have a beer or something after shooting, why not?
The whole alcohol is sinful and evil thing is what started the erosion of our 2nd amendment rights in the first place.
It brought prohibition which when it ended left a lot of federal agents with nothing to do. Which resulted in two guys being hassled over a pile of sugar and a sawed off shotgun. It has been downhill ever since.
Mntnman:
--- Quote from: DenmanShooter on April 24, 2014, 08:23:44 PM ---Just got a new riding lawn mower and used it for the first time today.
If you are mowing and want to back up, the blades disengage.
According to the manual, to mow in reverse, STOP, look around and behind you, hold your fingers under the blade engage button, press the reverse pedal.
So I am mowing in reverse one handed because some idiot jackass somewhere ran over something or someone mowing backwards and some lawyer saw big bucks because you shouldn't be able to do that.
Why do we have to build things for the lowest common denominator? If you are an adult, you are responsible for your own actions. If you want to have a beer or something after shooting, why not?
The whole alcohol is sinful and evil thing is what started the erosion of our 2nd amendment rights in the first place.
It brought prohibition which when it ended left a lot of federal agents with nothing to do. Which resulted in two guys being hassled over a pile of sugar and a sawed off shotgun. It has been downhill ever since.
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Usually one wire disconnected will end this stupid feature. It was the first thing I did to my mower after I bought it.
Gary:
--- Quote from: mercaptan on April 24, 2014, 10:17:19 AM --- I think Gary is against it.
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Yesterday I was against it. Today, I downed a fifth of vodka, 15 Colorado bulldogs, and an 18 pack of bush light. Today, it seems like a great idea!
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