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TwoSwords:

--- Quote from: GreyGeek on April 29, 2014, 05:10:29 PM ---What we should using our energy for is a law to restore Constitutional Carry in the entire State
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While I agree with the goal, you will never get this in a first bite, unless I misunderstood your meaning.

Follow the Kansas model, baby steps is the way to go.   If you try to go there in one step the Anti's will scream, "We can't have all these UNTRAINED people walking around with guns."  Wrong yes, but the public almost always buys this.

The rights were taken away slowly,  you will never get them back in one chunk.

Even in KS we have not ditched CCW training yet, and not yet gained Constitutional Carry.

This is the steps I would suggest, you can arrange the order as you see fit.

Remove the Force of Law from the No Gun sign.   Walk past a sign in KS, they can ask you to leave that's it.
Public Building Carry,  Tax payers paid for them, we carry in them.  Put in the metal detectors or allow CCW, Period.  KS DONE.
Get rid of the Bar Carry Ban 51%  - KS Bar Carry OK
Alcohol Carry - .08  Same as Driving - KS, UT  - I don't even drink but NE Zero Tolerance is over the top.  (Yes I know they don't mix, I don't drink)
School Grounds carry - Yes
And the latest.
State Wide preempted Open Carry - KS  July 1, 2014 effective date.

You need the last one before you'll get anywhere near ConC.  IMHO.  Once you have the last item, people can Open Carry without the CCW training.  Then you have them.
One more step to get to ConC.

I'm not here to debate Open Carry v. CCW, I'm just saying its a helpful tool if  you want to get to ConC.

Go study the CCW permits in various states.  There are 3 models generally speaking.

1) Some Mandated State Training-  KS, UT,  NE, MO, IL, TX  plus
2) Take an NRA Class  - IA Model  IRC
3) Give money get permit
4) Constitutional Carry - AK

You'll not get from #1 to #4 in one step, especially in the NE Unicameral, unless all the liberals are voted out.

Gary:
Erosion seems like the normal, expected consequence of time marching on.  It could be house paint, beach front property, or constitutional rights.

I have never seen a house, slowly get painted, or beach front property restore itself.

When the wall around East Germany came down, it was not slowly, it was all at once.

My avatar photo, was a victory, that fell in our favor, in the blink of an eye.

rudy:
I brought the topic of no ccw in parks up in another thread in conjunction with the Lincoln city libraries, which are posted.  Basically the response from folks on the board was that if the city posts the property, it is a legal posting and cannot be carried past.  But really, what gives the city the authority to post a publicly owned property?  The city parks and libraries are in effect owned by us, the taxpayers.  It is a load of BS in my opinion.  Publicly owned property should not be able to be legally posted.

aceflyer:
On the topic of changing state law/constitution, has a state-wide referendum or initiative been investigated to solidify preemption, or change the state constitution?  I realize this is difficult and lengthy process; however, based on what I'm reading, the signatures have to be evenly distributed on the petition, so the liberals in the main cities don't have all the power.  It's a more broad-based process across the state.  I would imagine as you get outside Lincoln and Omaha the views expressed here are more wide spread. 

I have heard that in other states, this process was not used typically for firearm laws because you'd get all sorts of outside gun control groups pumping money into the state against it.  But I'm not sure it isn't worth a try.

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