Another Victory For Open Carry!

[OnTheFly]

"Gentlemen...I implore you to take everything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt" - Benjamin Franklin to the 2nd Constitutional Convention

Now THAT'S funny right there.  I don't care who you are.

Fly

[farmerbob]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/27/texas-gun-activists-scrub-videos-after-shaming-from-restaurant-customers-youre-a-dumbss/

It looks like more no guns signs are in the works. What would we do without these guys?

[Mntnman]

If you look past the immediate negative reaction, you should be able to see that it eventually leads to great progress. Stop looking at what is right in front of you and try to imagine what is over the horizon. If people saw these things more often, they wouldn't be so skeered when they did. By attempting to appease the unappeasable, your rights silently slip away. Sometimes you have to hurt some feelings along the way. Exercise them or lose them. It IS up to us to keep our natural right of self preservation.

[Mntnman]

To be clear, all was well until the antis complained, not the general public.

[farmerbob]

With idiots like this on our side who needs enemies?
(I'm talking about the AR in your face morons)

[farmerbob]

I do understand fully what your talking about, although I bet you can't list one thing we have gained from these actions. The negatives just keep adding up.

Can you tell me what is to be gained by giving gun owners a negative image in the public's eye?

[Mntnman]

People are talking about it. Change for the better will happen, that is a plus.

A few, ahemm, "gun supporters" will realize that any stance that includes "I support thr 2nd amendment but..... " is not supportive. We continue to allow the antis room to divide us and until we all get in the boat and row in the same direction, we will not get very far.

[Husker_Fan]

First, even if I agreed with you this was a second amendment issue, the adage that just because something is legal doesn't make it right applies.

Second, I support the second amendment. No "buts." It simply doesn't apply to private property owners who are free to ban idiots from their property.

By your logic, I should be furious that some business owner won't let people come into their businesses, pop open a laptop, and start streaming hardcore pornography because there's a first amendment.

[Mntnman]

Um, no. I fully support the business's right to ask people not to carry there. You got lost somewhere.

[farmerbob]

There's a huge difference in the right to put up no gun signs and having the law backing them.

I think everyone would agree that private property owners should have the rights to put up signage.

No gun signs should not carry any more weight than a sign that says no shirt no shoes no service.

[OnTheFly]

No gun signs should not carry any more weight than a sign that says no shirt no shoes no service.

For the property owner, wouldn't a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign carry the full weight of the law if the business refused to serve someone due to their dress?  Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.

Fly

[Mntnman]

Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.

Fly

Businesses do have the right. Unfortunately, the law isn't always correct in acknowleging their rights. Sound familiar?

[farmerbob]

For the property owner, wouldn't a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign carry the full weight of the law if the business refused to serve someone due to their dress?  Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.

Fly

Agreed they have the right to refuse service and ask someone to leave. You hardly ever see anyone getting a misdemeanor and have the threat of losing ones rights for not wearing shoes.

[farmerbob]

And the last time I looked the Constitution doesn't guarantee one's rights to go shirtless and shoeless, so why do you get asked to leave or put them on, but exercise a right, you're looking at a ride downtown in a police car.

[Gunscribe]

I do understand fully what your talking about, although I bet you can't list one thing we have gained from these actions. The negatives just keep adding up.

Can you tell me what is to be gained by giving gun owners a negative image in the public's eye?

Bob, I guess you haven't read one single word I have written. Ohio, Virginia and to a smaller extent right there in Nebraska.

In Ohio a large number of open carry folks were arrested and harassed just prior to CCW.

It took 10 years for CCW to be enacted in Nebraska. In the year prior to CCW being passed a number of individuals open carried to illustrate that was the only legal option. Yes, it had an effect. The legislature decided that if people wanted to carry guns then they were going to have a say about when and where.

In Virginia it only takes personally knowing VCDL members of reading the organization website for the history  of CCW and open carry in that state.

That is only three. The internet is replete with lots of other examples.

As far as Open Carry and CCW everything you have was gained by those that took a stand risking harassment and arrest. Not just in Nebraska either. When you take your note from mommy to lots of other states you are enjoying the fruits accomplished by 2A activists all over the United States.

[Mntnman]

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[Blake74u]

Bob, I guess you haven't read one single word I have written. Ohio, Virginia and to a smaller extent right there in Nebraska.

In Ohio a large number of open carry folks were arrested and harassed just prior to CCW.

It took 10 years for CCW to be enacted in Nebraska. In the year prior to CCW being passed a number of individuals open carried to illustrate that was the only legal option. Yes, it had an effect. The legislature decided that if people wanted to carry guns then they were going to have a say about when and where.

In Virginia it only takes personally knowing VCDL members of reading the organization website for the history  of CCW and open carry in that state.

That is only three. The internet is replete with lots of other examples.

As far as Open Carry and CCW everything you have was gained by those that took a stand risking harassment and arrest. Not just in Nebraska either. When you take your note from mommy to lots of other states you are enjoying the fruits accomplished by 2A activists all over the United States.

Here, here!  Bravo!  I concur 100%