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Nine Things New Shooters (and CCW Holders) Need To Know About Training

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Lorimor:
It's a good article from Seeklander, even if he fails to mention "Critical Dynamic Incident."


--- Quote from: jthhapkido on May 27, 2014, 01:39:13 PM ---Yeah----that of course assumes that the person actually knows what they are good and bad at....

....which, from what I've seen, is really not the case.  (I know, I know, you weren't serious, but I'm still going to comment!  :)   )

How many people have you talked to/seen who talk about how good they are as shooters---but yet, you watch them on the range and 1) their draw from open OWB is only slightly under 5 seconds, 2) their groups on a 5 yard target (that's being generous) look like shotgun patterns at 20 yards, and 3) their safety practice looks like the Keystone Kops playing Tactical Timmie.

How about at the NFOA annual meeting last year, where we had people draw to a 12" plate at 7 yards----and either people couldn't hit the plate, OR their draw to first shot could have been measured by hourglass?

Yes, that sounds like I'm being derogatory, and I don't really mean it that way---it is just that people REALLY need to understand what "competent" means.  His point #8 is rather important for that---because if you log your practice, you can then compare it to various scores that are considered "competent" by the majority of professional instructors.

Let's take the NE LEO Firearms Qualification...

It isn't difficult, only takes a 70% to pass (you can miss 15 shots completely and still pass---so scarily enough, you can miss all of the 10 and 15 yard shots and STILL PASS) and yet....some LEOs every year have trouble passing it.  Looking at what we saw at the NFOA annual meeting, many people there (who probably consider themselves competent with firearms) wouldn't be able to pass it either, simply due to the time limits.  Accuracy-wise, sure---but they couldn't do it in the time given (especially the strings with required reloads).

I have a student who took my Introduction to Handgun class, practiced less than 10 times with a .22 pistol in the next year or so, bought a 9mm the week before she took my Handgun Techniques class (which she had never shot before the HT class) and in that class, she had no problem passing the LE Qualification.

It isn't hard---if you have good solid fundamentals, and are competent at basic gun-handling.  Everyone doesn't have to be world-class to be considered "competent" ---but a 2 second draw from concealment to an A-zone at 7 yards isn't world class.  That's just solidly competent.

Shawn and I disagree on many many things, yet one of the things we DO agree on is that single most important thing that people should work on is their ability to make accurate hits.  And yet, lots of classes around here teach "advanced tactics" of various flavors that don't actually improve people's abilities to make accurate shots---because people think they already shoot competently. 

Mike's got some good stuff.  His training program works well for shooters with enough discipline to actually do it, and his drills are solid.

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I completely agree.  First hand experience.  :)

"Advanced Skills"= practice.  Lots of practice. 

OnTheFly:

--- Quote from: jthhapkido on May 27, 2014, 06:24:41 AM ---My personal favorites are #1...
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Wait a minute. Isn't your blog free?  ;D

Fly

JTH:

--- Quote from: OnTheFly on May 28, 2014, 09:44:55 PM ---Wait a minute. Isn't your blog free?  ;D

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:)  Yep.  And people should completely ignore it if what I say contradicts reality, or can't be confirmed or supported by research and data.

Or, you know, they can ignore it because *I* said it.  That's fine too.   :P             

Vaguely relevant anecdote:

I ran into someone the other day who said, actually said to my face, that he wasn't interested in anything I had to say about shooting because I wasn't law enforcement or military, so I didn't understand anything that happened In Real Life(tm)....I was just a competition shooter.         

I just started laughing.  I couldn't help it.  When I thanked him for not being interested in taking one of my classes, he looked confused.

(I realize that I should have used some gentle facts and logic to help him understand better, but I wasn't in the mood to fix stupid at the time, and my sarcasm rating was pretty high that day.)

Jeepguy:
I am not an Instructor, I am not even that good of a student, but the people who scare me the most are the people who tell me they do not need to attend ANY training classes once they have their permit. They have been shooting since they were kids and already know everything! I can only shake my head and hope they leave their guns home in the safe.

bkoenig:

--- Quote from: Jeepguy on May 29, 2014, 12:04:04 PM ---I am not an Instructor, I am not even that good of a student, but the people who scare me the most are the people who tell me they do not need to attend ANY training classes once they have their permit. They have been shooting since they were kids and already know everything! I can only shake my head and hope they leave their guns home in the safe.

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Anyone, including instructors, who thinks they don't need any further instruction is someone to be wary of.  It's one thing to not get further training if you don't want to get better.  It's another thing to not get it because you think you're good enough that you don't need it.

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