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Concealed Carry and contact with Law Enforcement
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: NE Bull on July 19, 2014, 10:27:08 PM ---^ Rod? ;)
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Now WHY didn't I think of that. ;)
Fly
RN4Guns:
This sounds like a lot of he said she said. If this is just being taken as hearsay from one person, could they have misinterpreted what was presented? There is a lot of information missing. Since the source does not want to be identified perhaps NeBull you can seek clarification directly from the source instead of speculating. You know what happens when we ass u me..
Gunscribe:
--- Quote from: Gary on July 19, 2014, 01:54:31 PM ---Opinion: in a traffic stop, there is a magical point where the officer is on the fence as to whether he likes you or not.
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I am glad it is only your opinion. It has nothing to do with like or hate. It has everything to do with public safety.
Most Peace Officers (and some have been trained to) have their mind made up before exiting the patrol vehicle whether it will be a ticket, written warning or verbal warning for the infraction that required the stop.
The buzz word tests as you refer to them are an investigate technique designed to illicit information that may indicate other crimes; DUI, Minor in Possession, etc...
--- Quote from: Gary on July 19, 2014, 01:54:31 PM ---I think if a person goes out of their way to work with LEOs, they will be willing to work with us.
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I didn't pull you over to work with you. Or become best buds. Or swap spit in the shower. I initiated contact because you were in violation of a motor vehicle violation. I have a job to do. I will be professional and I will treat everyone exactly the same whether I let them off with a verbal warning or whether I have to hook them up (cuff) and transport them to jail for a more serious crime.
If it is obvious that you are going out of your way to make me happy will have me wondering what you could be trying to divert my attention from.
--- Quote from: Gary on July 19, 2014, 01:54:31 PM ---Your CHP permit takes stress out of the traffic stop, and makes their job easier.
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B.S. I don't know where you got that from but you could not be more wrong. I don't think you have any idea about the dynamics of a traffic stop from a trained Peace Officers point of view.
If I pull an off-duty officer over for DUI am I suppose to lower my guard when I find out he is a fellow officer? If I pull a vehicle over and the driver is an elderly woman am I suppose to lower my guard?
I can guarantee that every officer I know including myself will be in condition orange until the stop has been completed and you have departed the scene.
There is absolutely nothing you can do or say that will take the stress out of the stop or make my job easier.
You are right about one thing though; I want to go home at the end of my shift so whether you have a CCW, have gang tattoos or are wearing a priests collar you will be treated just like everyone else for the duration of the contact.
zofoman:
--- Quote from: Gary on July 19, 2014, 01:54:31 PM ---Showing your CHP, instantly lets them know you have passed an FBI background check and should be no threat to their safety.
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Just like taking tests in school/college or driving exams....people can pass these things and the basic facts were good at the time. Time passes quickly. Proof of that is that we have a lot of idiots running around regardless of their education and we have a shipload of bad drivers on the road. Whose to know the current state of mind with any CHP holder on any given day? For LEOs (including those who live in Mayberry), the guard should never go down.
Gunscribe:
For those of you that are not familiar with the dynamics of a traffic stop from the other side of the badge I hope you will find this enlightening.
http://www.policemag.com/channel/careers-training/articles/2012/11/traffic-stops.aspx
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