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Carry in vehicle with non CHP-passengers
Gunscribe:
--- Quote from: Gary on June 17, 2014, 01:57:33 PM ---Once the officer sees you are a valid CHP holder, he knows he has pulled over a person that has passed an FBI background check. That lowers his fears a great deal, and will put most officers at ease.
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Wishful thinking! There may be one or two Peace Officers in any given organization that profess feeling this way. As long as there is another firearm present most officers will not relax one iota until the stop is complete even if the stop was on an armed off-duty officer.
--- Quote from: Gary on June 17, 2014, 01:57:33 PM ---For constitutional carry folks, having a gun in plain sight, not concealed, does not tell him he pulled over someone that passed an FBI background check. The presence of a gun in the vicinity of a vehicle driver and passengers, will make for an uneasy police officer. While you may be in your rights, to possess a handgun in this fashion, I advise against it, because of the stress it imparts to the officers working the traffic stop.
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So, if someone does not have a concealed carry permit or they are waiting for it to come in the mail and they are carrying in the only legal manner available to them your advice is to leave their guns at home because it might stress some servant of the people.
So in your view the only people that have the Right to keep and bear arms is those that do it in your approved manner?
ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: Gunscribe on June 17, 2014, 02:17:50 PM ---So in your view the only people that have the Right to keep and bear arms is those that do it in your approved manner?
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LOL. In Gary's defense I think that's a textbook example of a non sequitur. At the very least it's putting words in someone's mouth. I think the intent was pretty clear when he said "... in your rights" (but) "... advise against it."
I can see his logic and agree with it in many contexts, and imagine that you really have to put traffic stops in context like that. Cherry County sheriff pulling over a pickup and seeing a gun on the dash (and several in the rack in the back window) may not think anything of it. City PD cop pulling over car of 20-somethings with loud booming music and 20” rims may have a different perspective. Sorry if that’s not PC.
Gunscribe:
--- Quote from: Gary on June 17, 2014, 01:57:33 PM ---While you may be in your rights, to possess a handgun in this fashion, I advise against it, because of the stress it imparts to the officers working the traffic stop.
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Feral he is advising that law abiding citizens forego their rights to make some public servant less nervous.
He is also suggesting that because a person has had an FBI background check that it will put any and all public servants at ease. There are just too many public servants and civilians that think only the police should have guns and private citizens should not have guns, even with a background check.
Anytime there is more than an officers firearm at a traffic stop the officer will be on high-alert even if the person/s being stopped are other public servants.
As an American citizen it is not in my job description to curb my Rights to make a public servant all touchy feely.
Because so-called good cops refuse to cross the thin blue line bad cops are enabled by that in-action.
00BUCK:
--- Quote from: 66bigblock on June 17, 2014, 12:42:55 PM ---break the weapon all down into its individual components while you are pulling over to the side of the road as suggested previously on this forum.
problem solved... >:D
66bigblock
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With one hand, IIRC
Blake74u:
Alright folks... I'm new to this State, but I've decided to call it "home". (I moved here recently from Louisiana). Nebraska is a lovely State that has won my heart.
With that being said, I must say: I am absolutely shocked about the gun laws here. :o(In a negative way). I'm use to carrying my Beretta or Glock in my car without the need for a CHP, and Open Carrying without anyone batting an eye unless I walk into a store, or restaurant. If I got pulled over, (only happened once when a tail light went out), I would politely say the following with my hands on the upper left hand side of the steering wheel: "Sir, for your protection and mine, I have a loaded firearm in my vehicle that I would like to make you aware of at this time." -And THAT WAS THAT. No uneasiness by the LEO because he understands the State Laws. He runs a quick check on me with dispatch, and we are off on our merry way. ;D
This is going to take some getting use to. (The Nebraska State Laws). The only reason why I never got a CHP in Louisiana is because I always saw it as a ludicrous money-making opportunity for certain individuals in the local gun community; indeed, they often were against any moves by State Legislators towards a Constitutional Carry because it would infringe on their "honey pot".
Is there any legislation currently in the works in Nebraska's Unicameral towards a Constitutional Carry?!? And if not, is there anyone running for office who would push for it? (They'd win my Vote).
Not trying to turn Nebraska into Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, or Wyoming.... but I saw the slippery slope that Colorado, (where I'm originally from), went down during the original Bush Sr./Clintonista AWB through the current 2013 High-cap Ban on Mags Law. Nebraska being a Rural-oriented, Red State, there shouldn't be this murky gun laws like I'm seeing.
Someone, please educate me.
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