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ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: farmerbob on July 06, 2014, 09:37:37 PM ---Words of wisdom from the "GUN GURU"
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The original self-proclaimed "Gunners' Guru" was Jeff Cooper, but Mr. Ayoob has certainly picked up the torch and carried it well. These are definitely words worthy of great consideration:
The gay rights movement didn’t make the strides it did by having its members have sex with each other in Starbucks, and wandering into a coffee shop or department store with a loaded military style rifle won’t make positive strides for gun owners’ civil rights. A small handful of attention whores have done huge damage to the vast majority of responsible gun owners.
ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: farmerbob on July 06, 2014, 08:57:27 PM ---Well if you can explain how we defend our families when our guns are locked in our vehicles. This isn't rocket science. What they perceive as bad behavior means no one is armed.
I personally think Gary had a great idea, let them go to business that give them an okay for what there doing. I think it's tantamount to me carry only in posted business. Does that also meet with your approval?
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Organizing on friendly turf is a better idea. I'm not sure where this concept came from of making an ostentatious political statement on a neutral third party's private property. That's how you make them not neutral. If I run a coffee shop I get up and go to work for one reason: to make good coffee and sell it to people who want good coffee. I'm not going to work to host someone's political theatrics.
It's not just this "cause" but any cause I want to keep out of the marketplace. There are people who are passionate about the pros and cons of circumcision as well, but I really don't want them whipping out their Gentleman's Sausage and taking selfies in front of the biscotti tins.
The reason why a person is pleased to see an OC pistol at Walmart and dismayed to see an OC long arm is that the pistol is a defensive tool and the long arm is an offensive tool. Thus, OC long arm guy is telling the world he doesn't understand that fundamental difference, or doesn't have enough reverence toward something as wonderful as a firearm to care to demonstrate the difference to the public.
Gary:
I have a tire iron in my truck. Big truck, big tire iron.
Would the management, shoppers, be happy to see me walk into Walmart holding a tire iron, as I walk around Walmart?
Do I have a need, to walk around Walmart holding a tire iron?
If I am holding a tire iron, for my own feeling of well being, regardless of how it makes others feel, is it possible I could protect myself by different means, and still stay reasonably safe? Say a concealed carry pistol?
If I have the ability to not ruffle the feathers of others, stay off everyone's radar, completely off, stay safe, mind my own business, do my business, and leave the environment untouched, why not do that?
I own 5 AR's. Not the largest selection people own, but a pretty good slection, and I am well protected, in areas I need protection.
I do not expect in a million years, to need more Deadly Force in a typical box store in any Nebraska city, than I can CC on my body. In thirty plus years of CC, in Iowa and Nebraska, in Beatrice, Lincoln, Omaha and Council Bluffs, I have never felt the need to blister the mindset of people around me, with a rifle on my shoulder.
Please, please, please stop the poking the stick at the bears in the zoo, as someday, a bear will reach through the bars, and change your day.
California, Texas, This retail chain, that retail chain, why not quit poking the bears, and work at getting along?
Nebraska is not 1950" Switzerland. I am very much pro 2nd Amendment. I am also very pro chocolate cake. Lots of frosting. O and ice cream. French vanilla. While I am eating chocolate cake, and vanilla ice cream, is it my right, to toss cake and ice cream, on others, while in my exuberance, to enjoy my right to eat, and if I get others soiled, spoiled, and bothered, who cares, I have my rights?
(sorry to get worked up, but when I realize just how important Chocolate Cake and French Vanilla Ice Cream is to me, I get all chocked up)
barmandr:
--- Quote from: Gunscribe on July 06, 2014, 08:44:06 PM ---So only handgun owners have gun Rights?
Or you only get all swelled up with yourself when someone does it in the manner you dictate it must be done.
So, if a person only owns a long gun they don't have a Right to bear arms and have to standby and watch their wives and daughters raped and murdered?
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Yep. And I also think the idiots who carry their long gun and stage photo ops are idiots who have done far greater harm than good.
Mudinyeri:
--- Quote from: feralcatkillr on July 06, 2014, 10:16:59 PM ---I'm not sure where this concept came from of making an ostentatious political statement on a neutral third party's private property.
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From the anti-gun crowd?
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