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Mudinyeri:
I would say that a business being unable to "refuse service" to a lawful concealed carrier is more like the Colorado baker being unable to refuse to make a wedding cake for the gay couple.  That decision might have some impact.  Not that I particularly like that court decision ....

OnTheFly:

--- Quote from: Mudinyeri on July 07, 2014, 10:11:40 AM ---I would say that a business being unable to "refuse service" to a lawful concealed carrier is more like the Colorado baker being unable to refuse to make a wedding cake for the gay couple.  That decision might have some impact.  Not that I particularly like that court decision ....

--- End quote ---

I hope that is appealed to a higher court.  That is a bogus decision.

An interesting counter example I read was of a business that was sued because it fired Muslim driver's who refused to deliver alcohol and tobacco products due to their religious convictions.  Seems that the business owner is losing all their rights if both of those decisions stand.

Fly

landon410:
property rights have already been taken, look at Omaha's smoking ban

do I smoke? nope, do I enjoy places that are smoke free more than smoke filled? yep
do I support the smoking ban? no

this is an example of govt controling property rights

jFader:
Isn't the smoking ban statewide & not just Omaha?

I think I found the loophole you are looking for landon....& all that you have to do is vote Hillary in 2016!

Stores have their RIGHTS.....but they can't discriminate against minorities? Right?  Didn't Hillary just say in an interview that "america can't let a minority amount of gun owners control the gun debate" or something to that effect?

If we can be decleared an official minority group....maybe we could keep from being discriminated against and maybe the aclu would pick up some gun cases & help a brother out!

Gunscribe:
J, you are on the right track. Gun ownership is the only Civil Right that must still be exercised at the back of the bus, and we are our own worst enemy.

Suppose there were a large number of blacks that lobbied against changing the laws and public perceptions because they didn't want to offend white people.

Suppose there were large numbers of gay people that publically lobbied against changing the laws and public perceptions because they didn't want to offend the Christians.

Suppose there were large numbers of disabled people that publically lobbied against changing the laws and public perceptions because they didn't want to offend healthy people.

There are however, a large number of gun owners that publically lobby for gun laws or public perceptions because they do not want to offend a few vocal liberals.

Most of you were not around for the fight for Civil rights in the 60's. I was. It was the in your face demonstrations and marches that won the day.

How many paid any attention to the Gay Pride in your face movement and demonstrations that led to the equality enjoyed today?

How many remember the Americans for disabilities movement and what it accomplished.

No major laws or policy shifts have come without protest and in your face actions.

If we had fought tooth and nail in the past we would not be having this discussion today. Now when we realize what we voluntarily gave up, we are appalled and want it back, there are some among us that do not want to rock the boat and insist that we remain seated in the back of the bus.

The Right to keep and bear arms is a Civil Right enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

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