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What do you think is Constitutional?
Mntnman:
Reagan is my hero but he really effed up when 86ed new full autos. I wish we would pull together and reject all this crap that we accept because most just think it is legal just because it is the law.
grumpy old man:
My favorite (non relative) is Thomas Jefferson so I asked him what he thought. He told me the answer by reading one of his books. Here it is.
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” Thomas Jefferson
Ronvandyn:
IMHO actions have consequences. Some good, some bad, depending upon the action taken. If John Q. Public decides one day to take his 38 S&W and rob a bank, he knows that if caught that there will be consequences. One of those consequences is, known by John or not, that he will never ever be allowed to legally own a gun again. Has nothing to do with if he is rehabilitated or not, it’s a small part of the price he pays for his decision on that cold November day at the bank. He made a decision, decisions have consequences. Even in 1776 this simple concept was true. They had prisons and jails, courts and penalties, laws and law enforcement. Even the famed Thomas Jefferson knew these things, and I strongly suspect that he supported the idea of consequences for actions. I can do and support no less.
Gunscribe:
Actions do have consequences yes!
From the Founding days persons that paid their debt to society had all of their Rights restored upon completion of their sentence. In the 1800's there were ex-cons that went on to be well respected lawmen.
All convicted felons loose their RKBA. You alluded to an armed bank robber. How about a car dealer convicted of turning back the speedometer on a used car? How about a woman convicted of embezzling a couple thousand dollars? How about any of the non-violent crimes classified as felonies.
This felony thing is a product of gun control. Make as many crimes as possible felonies and you will only need one gun law and 3/4's of the population will be convicted felons.
Most people can't make it through any given day that without doing something that could be construed as a felony.
So the 2 years a guy gets for turning back a speedometer is actually the same life sentence as murder. Most murders spend less than 25 years behind bars.
He paid his debt when will he ever be a free man again?
Gunscribe:
At one time I believe it was Arkansas had a law on the books that stated when a prisoner was released from the penitentiary he was to be given a twenty dollar gold piece and his firearm back.
I am not sure when the felons can't own guns thing started, possibly with the GCA of 1968, but it is a recent invention in American history.
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