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SS_N_NE:

--- Quote from: Ronvandyn on July 16, 2014, 06:24:11 PM ---impose consequences for the decisions we make that the citizenry says are unacceptable.
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But, it seems to me that government is making the laws that "citizenry" has little to say about. I have voted for legislation that won by popular citizen vote...only to be ignored by government as they plow ahead for their quest of power and control often making law that directly conflicts with what "the people" want.
Stripping a person of rights and freedom does not make them law abiding. Telling a felon they can not posses firearms does nothing to prevent a felon from aquiring and using guns.  It may increase consequenses if caught but what has the law created?

Gunscribe:
Congress passed the first blanket prohibition on felons carrying guns in the Gun Control Act of 1968, which made it illegal for felons to possess a gun any under circumstances. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act, passed in 1986, reinforced the ban on felons carrying guns, and also banned people who have been convicted of a crime punishable by more than one year of imprisonment from possessing guns.

Felons owning guns is a recent invention that was spawned from the deaths of two Kennedys and a Malcolm. Signed by Johnson in 1968.

Turning back a speedometer = felony

Killing somebody = felony

So in essence a used car salesman gets the same life sentence that a murderer does. Now that's real American Justice for you.

Banning certain people from having guns is just gun owner approved go along to get along gun control.

Now there are even misdemeanors on the list and gun owners keep sucking up to the grabbers. Just because you are not in any ban category doesn't mean you won't be in the future.

Pretty soon failing to renew your registration in a timely manner will get you banned from owning a gun. Or letting your insurance lapse accidently. Holy crap if you are not responsible enough to manage your finances you certainly are not responsible to own a firearm.

Doubt me? It appears that is what may be happening to some Veterans through recommendations made by the V.A.

The grabbers are smart enough to know that they can not get all guns banned in one swooping law so for the last 50 years they have been doing it one little piece at a time and there is just too many gun owners that are happy to help them get the job done.

farmerbob:
There are certain people that shouldn't be around guns yet all the laws on the books won't keep them out of their hands. Laws are for the law bidding not the lawless.

Gun control is about control. I don't need the very people that my tax money pays there salary taking liberties with my rights, the very rights they took an oath to uphold.

Gun control is based in lies and misinformation to make some feel good who are ruled by emotions rather than by facts as they freely give up there rights and want ours also. This is what we must fight.

Ronvandyn:

--- Quote from: farmerbob on July 16, 2014, 10:14:47 PM ---Gun control is based in lies and misinformation to make some feel good who are ruled by emotions rather than by facts as they freely give up there rights and want ours also. This is what we must fight.



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+1

Ronvandyn:

--- Quote from: SS_N_NE on July 16, 2014, 08:49:28 PM ---But, it seems to me that government is making the laws that "citizenry" has little to say about. I have voted for legislation that won by popular citizen vote...only to be ignored by government as they plow ahead for their quest of power and control often making law that directly conflicts with what "the people" want.
Stripping a person of rights and freedom does not make them law abiding. Telling a felon they can not posses firearms does nothing to prevent a felon from aquiring and using guns.  It may increase consequenses if caught but what has the law created?

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There is nothing in your comment that I can disagree with, not one thing. 

Yet it is the citizens responsibility to elect their representatives carefully, with knowledge and great consideration.  If government is making decisions we do not like then we elected the wrong representatives.  Us.  You me and the guy/gal next door.  From my perspective, here in Nebraska, we do a pretty good job electing the right people.  Not always, but in general they do what we elected them for and represent us in a manner that is not completely unacceptable.  In this day and age that is about the best we can ask for.  Electing someone based on a hand shake, a few commercials, and MAYBE a debate, is like trying to divine water in a desert.  Tough going.   I also wish that government did a better job, but wishing is not going to make it happen.

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