Open Carrying Did Some Good?

[NENick]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/05/dont-point-that-fing-gun-at-me-open-carry-activist-takes-a-bold-stand-against-county-ordinance-and-wins/

"Chief Deputy Brett Bowe of the Calumet County Sheriff’s Office told WLUK that the sheriff’s department would not enforce the old blanket ban."


I'm sure that there is some forum from this guy's area where the local 2A crowd was afraid to be the guinea pig and challenge the old law.
He had the courage to OC, confronted the law, and now law enforcement has clarified the grey area and stated that they won’t enforce the old law.

A small victory driven by a dope?

[Husker_Fan]

I'll say the guy was a dope. What good is a gun without a round chambered?

[Mntnman]

What good is a gun without a round chambered?

Good enough to get rid of a BS law.

[Husker_Fan]

To be honest, I was surprised this happened in Wisconsin. Both Milwaukee and Madison have already acknowledged they can't restrict open carry.

[Gary]

I'll say.....What good is a gun without a round chambered?

There are toothbrushes and dentist drills.  Both are on the same team, just one is more aggressive.

That is my flippant answer.  My serious question back, is how are we going to raise the five grand just to walk in the door of the Mayo clinic because someone dropped a loaded handgun and it went off at a 4th of July party, striking a young girl?

She is about to enter the 7th grade, and has no use of her one arm. 

Maybe we should ask her if she thinks a unloaded gun, is of any value?  In her case, I would say, possibly 100's of thousands of dollars.

[farmerbob]

Maybe we should ask her if she thinks a unloaded gun, is of any value?  In her case, I would say, possibly 100's of thousands of dollars.

Around 40,000 people a year in the United States are killed in automobile accident. The ones that are injured must be in the hundreds of thousands. 

I wonder,Gary,how many lives could be saved if we all would just refuse to put gas in them? Maybe using them safely and responsibly is the answer.

[Mudinyeri]

Around 40,000 people a year in the United States are killed in automobile accident. The ones that are injured must be in the hundreds of thousands. 

I wonder,Gary,how many lives could be saved if we all would just refuse to put gas in them? Maybe using them safely and responsibly is the answer.

I was thinking almost exactly the same thing.

Leave the fuel out of your vehicle's tank.  You can always fuel it up when you need it.  Remember folks, it's for the children.

[ILoveCats]

Leave the fuel out of your vehicle's tank.  You can always fuel it up when you need it.  Remember folks, it's for the children.

Any love here for "condition three" carry with a pocket gun? 

I just got a Ruger LCP and, wow, the new model's "second generation" trigger is light and smooth!  But it's making me reconsider my prior doubts about condition three. Yeah, yeah, I know it takes two hands and crucial seconds, yada yada yada.... but if carrying is all about mitigating risks, I'm weighing the risks of being attacked without warning and only having use of one hand versus the risk of something pressing that very light trigger even in a pocket holster.

[OnTheFly]

Any love here for "condition three" carry with a pocket gun? 

I just got a Ruger LCP and, wow, the new model's "second generation" trigger is light and smooth!  But it's making me reconsider my prior doubts about condition three. Yeah, yeah, I know it takes two hands and crucial seconds, yada yada yada.... but if carrying is all about mitigating risks, I'm weighing the risks of being attacked without warning and only having use of one hand versus the risk of something pressing that very light trigger even in a pocket holster.

99.999999999999999999999999998% chance you won't ever need the gun.  Not just in an "attack without warning", but ever.  Carry as you like.  Me personally?  One in the chamber.

Fly

[JTH]

Any love here for "condition three" carry with a pocket gun? 

Not really. 

Drawing from a pocket is normally slow enough already, without having to rack the slide afterwards---and for very small guns, racking the slide with one hand (which is a significant possibility) is Not Easy.

I just got a Ruger LCP and, wow, the new model's "second generation" trigger is light and smooth!  But it's making me reconsider my prior doubts about condition three. Yeah, yeah, I know it takes two hands and crucial seconds, yada yada yada.... but if carrying is all about mitigating risks, I'm weighing the risks of being attacked without warning and only having use of one hand versus the risk of something pressing that very light trigger even in a pocket holster.

Nemesis pocket holster.   

http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/890724/desantis-nemesis-pocket-holster-ambidextrous-kel-tec-p3at-ruger-lcp-with-crimson-trace-lasergrips-nylon-black

If the trigger guard is covered, the trigger simply isn't going to do anything.   I don't happen to pocket carry (hm---okay, maybe once or twice a year for about 10 minutes at a time) but I own a couple of nemesis holsters, and the trigger simply isn't going to go anywhere when it is holstered.

As Fly said---it is your life, and your choices in terms of risk assessment.  For me personally, I never carry in condition three, and I always use a holster that completely covers the trigger guard.

[Gary]

Any love here for "condition three" carry with a pocket gun? 

I just got a Ruger LCP and, wow, the new model's "second generation" trigger is light and smooth!  But it's making me reconsider my prior doubts about condition three. Yeah, yeah, I know it takes two hands and crucial seconds, yada yada yada.... but if carrying is all about mitigating risks, I'm weighing the risks of being attacked without warning and only having use of one hand versus the risk of something pressing that very light trigger even in a pocket holster.

Bring your new LCP by the shop sometime and we can compare old version to new version for trigger pull.  My version has a pretty hard TP.   The DeSantis holster mentioned in this thread works well.

 My only issue with .380 as a self defense round in a LCP or Glock 42 is it is too little of too little.   Just too many trade offs to get a pistol on your person. 

I rather imagine Jimmy Hoffa had some tiny pee shooter on him as he stepped into what he thought was a friends car.   

It is best not to jump into deep water on an exhale. Because I never know how deep the water is going to be around me later in the day, who can see the future?, I am not comforted by a tiny gun with few rounds of a modest caliber.   For myself, I think of a Glock 19 as a small gun.  I prefer the loss of two rounds to go with a Glock 23.