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Banning Firearms in Apartments?
patrickdm:
This was recently posted on my FB wall by a friend. I have no idea if it's true, anyone else seen or heard anything?
http://iowagunowners.org/legislation/iowa/item/83-give-up-your-guns-or-move-an-iowan-has-a-terrible-choice-to-make
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: patrickdm on August 27, 2014, 12:07:48 PM ---This was recently posted on my FB wall by a friend. I have no idea if it's true, anyone else seen or heard anything?
http://iowagunowners.org/legislation/iowa/item/83-give-up-your-guns-or-move-an-iowan-has-a-terrible-choice-to-make
--- End quote ---
While I think we should absolutely use social and economic pressure to persuade businesses not to implement unreasonable rules relating to firearms, this article is incorrect. There is no Second amendment right to take firearms onto another person's private property against their will. The Second Amendment is a restraint on government, not on property owners.
RLMoeller:
Some states may have certain provisions that could prohibit this type of restriction, and I am not well versed on which states have passed those protections. The big challenge for any landlord is enforcing those restrictions. How would they know if someone, anyone, is in violation of a policy that prohibits firearms? Keeping it hidden, they would not know.
Something that bothers me about his article is how much it reads like a NAGR fundraising letter.
More research into this is needed.
AAllen:
First I want to voice agreement with Rod that more info is needed. But to a degree I want to disagree with CitizenClark. This is a conflict between property and civil rights, I think we both can agree with that statement, but when resolving such conflicts you need to look at whom would face more harm. To me the person who is having his ability to defend himself being limited faces the most possible damage. The person owning the property only faces knowing that someone that has purchased the right to use his property is not doing what he would. The property owner has the ability to make other use of the property rather than rent apartments. To me this is like having a clause in the rental agreement that you will worship allah (be muslim) or vote Democrat in the lease, these are things that obviously would not be upheld by a court.
Limiting the carrying of arms in commons areas are well within the property owners rights (provided that transport between the "leased area, non public ie. apartment" and off property is not hindered) I would agree that the property owner can require what ever they wish in these public spaces.
Again Rod is correct each State has laws that cover the rental agreement between these people, I do not know Iowa laws on such but that is where things need to start.
Mudinyeri:
I think we need to start approaching this type of restriction, as Andy suggests, as discrimination. Law-abiding gun owners are being discriminated against. Our natural rights are just a much a part of us as our race, color, creed, religion and, apparently, sexual orientation. We are born with these rights. To deny them, even as a private property owner, is not different than to deny a gay couple a wedding cake or force a person of color to use a different bathroom or drinking fountain.
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