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selling gun question.....
barmandr:
This place kills me...everyone constantly claiming too much government involvement in our business, but then recommends requiring more government documentation than the law requires. Make up your minds folks. If it's not needed, by law, it's not needed.
66bigblock:
I agree with barman about too much govt interference, BUT...
Do you really want to be the one that sells a firearm to next niko jenkins?
Odds of that happening less than .0001%, but as easy as it is for someone to file for the sheriffs permit, why would they not do it? Is there a way for you to know that the buyer has not been convicted of a felony in the 3 years and 3 months since his last handgun purchase permit was issued?
A buyer that can provide me a permit, a NE DL and will let me photocopy them tells me that they have been checked out by someone at a higher pay grade than me. As a responsible firearm owner, it proves to a jury that I did my due diligence to make sure that I was selling to someone that was legally authorized to purchase a firearm.
Although not required by law, I personally have too much to lose to sell a firearm to someone that has had that right removed by his own actions.
My vote is do not sell without the permit.
66bigblock
Mudinyeri:
--- Quote from: barmandr on September 15, 2014, 01:08:01 PM ---This place kills me...everyone constantly claiming too much government involvement in our business, but then recommends requiring more government documentation than the law requires. Make up your minds folks. If it's not needed, by law, it's not needed.
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I'm with 66bigblock. I don't want more government intervention but I do want to be comfortable that I'm selling a firearm to a law-abiding citizen. While not required by law for private sales, the driver's license and purchase permit already exist (i.e. we're not asking for any additional government intervention) and should be easily provided by an individually who can legally own a firearm.
Mntnman:
--- Quote from: 66bigblock on September 15, 2014, 01:51:53 PM ---I agree with barman about too much govt interference, BUT...
Do you really want to be the one that sells a firearm to next niko jenkins?
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The fact that he is able to pass a background check means nothing. Many people buy guns legally before they commit an act of evil. It might give you piece of mind that he hasn't done so yet, but maybe he just hasn't been caught. Background checks merely hinder law-abiding folks and really have been proven worthless at preventing evil acts.
Personally, if I am buying privately I don't like the seller keeping my information. I do show him my credentials but would rather they leave it at that. They can write my name down if it makes them feel better. Yes, I have been fingerprinted and background checked out the wazoo.
barmandr:
So, some of you feel that the government requirement to have a purchase permit is an infringement on the RKBA, but have no problems requiring it, even though not required, when doing a private sale? Hmmm...your reason is that it is a CYA/peace of mind to make sure someone is allowed to purchase/own a gun and has passed a background check. Isn't that exactly what the government is doing to lawful citizens who want to own guns? You know, just making sure only the "right" people will purchase firearms. Yet, when it's your butt that may end up in a sling, you're all for it. Sounds like a bit of a double standard and very hypocritical.
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