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OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: Mntnman on September 23, 2014, 07:26:52 PM ---Whatever they do, the Patriot Act needs to go bye bye. It isn't even a law, Constitutionally speaking. Why do we let them use it as one? Someone says you are a threat and you can disappear without your rights protected by the Constitution? I don't thinks so! Either it protects us all, or it protects nobody.
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^^^THIS!
Fly
GreyGeek:
--- Quote from: abbafandr on September 23, 2014, 07:15:06 PM ---Minor problem here. California alone has more airports than Israel. Can we afford to do that level of security for every airport? Every international airport? Do we want to?
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Depends on how many people you feel would be an acceptable loss? You or a member of your family who took a plane ride?
There are too many TSA incompetents and too many ViPR teams roaming the country violating constitutional rights left and right. One competent professional security person is worth 10 or 20 TSA gropers, and their highly paid administrators in the bureaucracy.
ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: OnTheFly on September 23, 2014, 10:46:19 AM ---I guess I can't wrap my brain around that logic. The TSA was set up as a deterrent. It still has holes, but because they have not had any great save, this proves that their efforts are futile? I guess I could apply the same logic and say that since we have not had anymore hijackings where planes have been flown into buildings, then the TSA security efforts are a complete success.
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True. It's like saying there haven't been any accidents at an intersection since they made it a four-way stop, so therefore the stop signs aren't necessary.
--- Quote from: OnTheFly on September 23, 2014, 10:46:19 AM ---However, what is your alternative? No screening? Screening by a different, but just as messed up agency? Outsourcing to the private sector?
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I'm not sure awarding to the low bid contractor means better security screening. Even Adam Smith noted that there are certain functions that are inherently governmental for which the profit motive is not the best course of action (he gave lighthouses as the "transportation security" example in his time). But currently the sad reality is that civil service jobs are unionized and firing someone is next to impossible. It's not a matter of being able to hire good people, but a matter of not being able to dismiss bad ones. Fix that and your personnel problems are reduced by 98%.
--- Quote from: Gary on September 23, 2014, 11:21:46 AM ---He was a lifetime postal employee.
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You could have stopped right there and we'd have gotten the picture. ::)
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