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http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_connecticut_by_city_2012.xls#disablemobile

Row I am cross eyed over is Newtown.  No deaths in 2012.  This is from the FBI.    The Highlighted Colum that is "0" is deaths in 2012.

Anyone want to take a stab at explaining this?


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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 12:59:07 AM »
Just a guess...the school wasn't actually in the town of Newtown?

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 01:29:44 AM »
Just a guess...the school wasn't actually in the town of Newtown?

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Good Idea.  Looked it up on Bing Maps



Sandy Hook Elementary School

375 Fan Hill Rd, Monroe, CT 06468

41.419460, -73.278676


Monroe CT listed 0 deaths in 2012   

Bridgeport 22
Hartford 23
Newhaven 17

No city lists 26 deaths, or more, that I see.

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 09:32:18 AM »
It's missing from the metro and non-metro  counties also:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/10tabledatadecpdf/table_10_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_state_by_metropolitan_and_nonmetropolitan_counties_2012.xls/view

It is doubtful that there is a "fiscal year" problem and that the missing data would appear in next year's statistics.   It does suggest that the FBI data is grossly inaccurate and thus misleading.

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 09:42:05 AM »
LOL, I shoulda scrolled on down.  I just searched all that out, too.
I WONDER if the went by the town the student was from?, which would have spread the numbers out.
Or---Hold on, lemme find some foil first......
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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 10:34:22 AM »
Infowars had a great big blustery nonsense report about this, and it got debunked pretty readily. 

Heck, even USA Today figured this one out.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/10/mass-killings-missing-data/12990815/

(I'll note that the reporting agencies are the ones who choose where the crimes get put, not the FBI--the FBI receives the data sent by the various reporting agencies, they don't go get the data themselves.)

For those who want more data on Newton, you can always look at the source files:

http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 01:01:05 PM »
False Flag

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 06:33:40 PM »
When asked the Connecticut FBI office stated that the State Police requested that the numbers not be added to the list. 

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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 06:56:49 PM »
And WHY?  Data is Data.
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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 03:14:55 AM »
I read somewhere, the numbers were placed somewhere else but still counted in a grand total. 

When I was quite small, my Mom and Grandma used to bake a pumpkin pie and leave it out on the kitchen table with a glass of milk on Christmas Eve.   As I have gotten older, the deceptions have not faded away like childish things should, they only get more complex, sinister.    I have thousands of hours in studying the abnormalities of the JFK murder.  I have a few hundred hours into the study of 911.   A critical look into things that look to be rabit holes sometimes are.  Sandy Hook looks to be a story with a few rabit holes of its own.

I have not looked closely into SH to get a full picture, however,  this was not a typical crime scene, for whatever the reasons.    The FBI doing this shell game with crime numbers could very well mean nothing. 

No seasonal decorations in windows, nurmous photos inside the school showing what look to be storage boxes, no school buses to evaluate 600 students, no life flight helicopters called, briefing by the ME on the day of the event saying he hopes the whole thing does not crash down on their heads.    The list goes on and on. 

Lets look at the other side of the coin.  Would Eric Holder and the Justice Dept run a sting involving compartmenlized teams that did not know the whole picture, to push forward an agenda for the Obama administration to chip away at our 2nd Ammendment rights?    I guess Fast and Furious answers that question. 

20 years from now once a reputable author or two puts all the information together for us, we will have a better picture of what really took place at SH

20 years after they crushed all the civilian owned guns in Australia,  it was a bit to late to turn back.
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Re: Someone want to try to wrap this around my head so I can understand it?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 03:37:15 AM »
In our own back yard, look at the Franklin CU scandal.  Did it involve the crime of dispicible acts against children?    We have credible people still alive today that say it did.  We also have murdered people investigating crimes against children in boys town and other places that can no longer talk. 

Investigate Johnny Gosh.  That rabbit hole leads to the CIA controling politicians.   SH may be something on a grander scale, rather than an exercise reported to be real.  Maybe it was more real than we know?    Maybe the real story is the why, and not the if.