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farmerbob:
http://patriotoutdoornews.com/11558/case-closed-fbi-says-9mm-best-pistol-round#sthash.QZPZEdNs.dpuf

At least we won't have to have this discussion again.

FarmerRick:
If 9x19 is so good, wouldn't 9x21 or 9x23 be even better?


 :P

Randy:
Of note: “There is little to no noticeable difference in the wound tracks between premium line law Auto enforcement projectiles from 9mm Luger through the .45 Auto.” - See more at: http://patriotoutdoornews.com/11558/case-closed-fbi-says-9mm-best-pistol-round#sthash.QZPZEdNs.5yL2YWnk.dpuf
Read more at http://patriotoutdoornews.com/11558/case-closed-fbi-says-9mm-best-pistol-round#Ys8rZzLhX6RU1ug0.99

Gumby:
FarmerRick - I like your 9×21mm Gyurza idea for body armor ventilation.

Compare JPH 147gr 9mm vs. the JPH 230gr 45 below.  See:  http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm#PISTOL AMMUNITION



I train/favor a 3-burst effort to center of mass for close encounters, and a heavy old Ruger P89 9mm works best for me in that regard.  Some folks do good things with 22LR rounds.  Perhaps we'll give Ernest Hemingway the last word or two (from Hemingway on Hunting):

“Now standing in one corner of a boxing ring with a .22 caliber Colt automatic pistol, shooting a bullet weighing only 40 grains and with a striking energy of 51 foot pounds at 25 feet from the muzzle, I will guarantee to kill either Gene Tunney or Joe Louis before they get to me from the opposite corner. This is the smallest caliber pistol cartridge made; but it is also one of the most accurate and easy to hit with, since the pistol has no recoil. I have killed many horses with it, cripples and bear baits, with a single shot, and what will kill a horse will kill a man."

So the 22LR is ideal for all situations? Not quite, says EH:

"Yet this same pistol bullet fired at point blank range will not dent a grizzly’s skull, and to shoot a grizzly with a .22 caliber pistol would simply be one way of committing suicide.”

One man prepares for ponies, another for Griz...  8)

GreyGeek:

--- Quote from: Gumby on September 30, 2014, 12:18:57 AM ---"Yet this same pistol bullet fired at point blank range will not dent a grizzly’s skull, and to shoot a grizzly with a .22 caliber pistol would simply be one way of committing suicide.”
--- End quote ---

Not if you hit the griz in the eye or back of the mouth when he opened it to bite you.   ;)

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