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what kind of weapon is this?
bkoenig:
You still have to pay the $200 tax, fill out an ATF Form 1, get your lower receiver engraved with the manufacturer info (you) and wait for approval. The only difference if you buy vs build is that buying one is a Form 4 and it's already engraved.
shooter:
DO NOT start building a SBR before you get your tax stamp, extreme Illegal,
now as far as a SHTF rifle. Im building one now,
a H&K 53, this has a 8.5 inch barrel, 25, 30, and 40 round mags,
im waiting on my tax stamp so I can put a stock on it,
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: brandonhein on October 11, 2014, 08:31:50 PM ---Good to know!!!
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Let me clarify a few things...
If you want a short barrel rifle (SBR) regardless of whether you buy it already built or buy the parts to build it, you MUST fill out the paperwork as bkoenig stated, pay your $200 tax stamp, etc.
Regarding building the rest of the rifle, or a non-SBR rifle, you can buy all the parts pre-made. The "lower" is the portion of the gun with the trigger guard, magazine well, pistol grip, etc. THIS is what is considered the firearm by the ATF. The rest of the parts are just...well...parts. You can buy a stripped (no parts, just an empty shell that you add parts to) from MANY manufacturers. So by "building" your own firearm, I was referring to the act of purchasing the pre-made parts and putting them together.
Regarding what "would be best for a SHTF" rifle. There is no perfect rifle and/or caliber. You have to do some reading and make that determination for yourself. Be aware, when you build one, they will start to pro-create and the next thing you know you have six "SHTF rifles". One SBR for close quarters. One 20" barrel for long range. One in .300AAC. One AR-10 (7.62/.308). etc. etc. They are like rabbits or Tribbles.
Check out AR15.com (a.k.a. ARFCOM). Read and be cautious about asking newb questions without doing a COMPLETE search because there are many web commandos that will rip off your head and $hit down your neck for asking a question that they have seen before. Better yet, read on AR15.com, then come back here to get a friendly answer.
I personally am largely inexperienced in the AR-15, or most rifles for that matter, but there are many hear with great amounts of knowledge on the subject.
Fly
tstuart34:
--- Quote from: OnTheFly on October 11, 2014, 08:19:48 PM ---That is an AR-15 with a short barrel. That's the great thing about AR-15s, you can mix and match a lot of different parts to make it what you want. Keep in mind short barrels such as this will require a $200 tax, paperwork, background check, and a wait while everything is processed, etc. In regards to what you are looking for, specifically a rifle that can reach out to 200 yards, well you may be looking at the wrong barrel length in the photo. Even a 16" or longer AR doesn't do that great out to 200 yards if you are talking shooting through body armor.
An AR-10 (.308) or AR-15 in .300AAC might be more capable out to 200 yards.
Fly
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300BO was designed for CQB 200 yds is pushing things.... 6.8spc with a short barrel has a lot more reach.
Just like any firearm bullet selection and shot placement is key. If you shoot someone at 200 yes with a fmj reload compared to a M855 you are going to have a big performance difference.
My rifle is a 14.5" barrel blind pinned and welded to 16". This saves about 1.5" of overall length. This is a legal way to get a slightly shorter over all length.
Edit:
Also if you want to a SHTF rifle I would pick one that is a NATO 5.56 7.62. This will make ammo replenishment a lot more likely compared to any other "Wildcat" calibers.
Oh yes and BRD Black Rifle Disease is hard to kick.
tstuart34:
A lot of good info about starting a FORM1
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/257740_Complete_Guide_of_how_to_complete_a_Form_1.html
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