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80% lower, after you die!
tstuart34:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on October 18, 2014, 12:50:43 AM ---Nothing to stop you from putting your own serial number on an 80% lower when you build one. That might make it easier for your survivors to sell, assuming they're still legal at that time. If they're not, NO serial number might be better. ;D
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That's my understanding...they must be marked with SN and manufacture to be sold and your original intent was not to resell. Your serial number could be anything you want. I thought about making lowers for my three kids and make the SN there birthdates. Sticking them in the back of the safe and when they are old enough they cab build there rifle how they please.
newfalguy101:
--- Quote from: tstuart34 on October 18, 2014, 04:17:09 PM ---That's my understanding...they must be marked with SN and manufacture to be sold and your original intent was not to resell. Your serial number could be anything you want. I thought about making lowers for my three kids and make the SN there birthdates. Sticking them in the back of the safe and when they are old enough they cab build there rifle how they please.
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Please quote your source that "requires" serial numbers on homebuilt guns, under ANY circumstances.
I will save you the trouble, there are NO requirements for HOMEBUILDERS to serialize their guns*
*Note: By definition a homebuilder is NOT a manufacturer and is not building with the intent of selling.
tstuart34:
--- Quote from: newfalguy101 on October 18, 2014, 04:25:42 PM ---Please quote your source that "requires" serial numbers on homebuilt guns, under ANY circumstances.
I will save you the trouble, there are NO requirements for HOMEBUILDERS to serialize their guns*
*Note: By definition a homebuilder is NOT a manufacturer and is not building with the intent of selling.
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I am speaking on selling or transferring any homebuilder firearm. Inorder transfer any firearm you must comply with the markings required of a manufacturer. I am on my phone so hard to quote. But here is the ATF
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html#commercial-parts-assembly
Look under engraving
newfalguy101:
From your link:
Individuals manufacturing sporting-type firearms for their own use need not hold Federal Firearms Licenses (FFLs).
However, we suggest that the manufacturer at least identify the firearm with a serial number as a safeguard in the event that the firearm is lost or stolen.
Also, the firearm should be identified as required in 27 CFR 478.92 if it is sold or otherwise lawfully transferred in the future.
As I posted earlier, ATF suggest serializing, but does NOT require it.
As for selling or otherwise transferring, 27 CFR 478.92, as a LAW only applies to MANUFACTURERS and once again ATF says "should" as apposed to the verbage in the law that says
(a)(1) Firearms. You, as a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer of firearms, must legibly identify each firearm manufactured or imported as follows:
So as stated above, ATF suggest but does NOT require it.
tstuart34:
--- Quote from: newfalguy101 on October 18, 2014, 05:14:23 PM ---From your link:
Individuals manufacturing sporting-type firearms for their own use need not hold Federal Firearms Licenses (FFLs).
However, we suggest that the manufacturer at least identify the firearm with a serial number as a safeguard in the event that the firearm is lost or stolen.
Also, the firearm should be identified as required in 27 CFR 478.92 if it is sold or otherwise lawfully transferred in the future.
As I posted earlier, ATF suggest serializing, but does NOT require it.
As for selling or otherwise transferring, 27 CFR 478.92, as a LAW only applies to MANUFACTURERS and once again ATF says "should" as apposed to the verbage in the law that says
(a)(1) Firearms. You, as a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer of firearms, must legibly identify each firearm manufactured or imported as follows:
So as stated above, ATF suggest but does NOT require it.
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Thank you for quoting it for me....
I take Should be as you Shall be. I understand how you are reading the ATF statement.
I am basing my statements on every thread that i have read on the subject has someone state that you must comply with standard serializing methods of you want to sell a home built weapon.
Here is a thread from a forum that is specific to homegun smiths...
http://www.homegunsmith.com/archive/T17698.html
I am not saying you are wrong or I am right but this is how i have interpuited it when i was researching finishing a 80% lower.
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