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Wildgoose:
Reading some of the discussions on carrying and transporting reminded me of an issue that can and in some cases in other states has been a problem for those of us who own firearms like AK/AR pistols and SBR's. Be aware that not all LEO's are well versed in what is legal and what is not. If you are transporting your evil looking AK pistols and SBR's, even with the Class III paper work required for the SBR, and are stopped you can have issues. In the cases I am referring to above things were eventually sorted out but at great time and inconvenience to the owner. And in a couple of cases a night in jail was involved. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't do it or that you will have this problem if stopped. But if for some reason the guns you are in possession of is looked into be aware that if you are transporting this type of gun mistakes can happen. For this reason I don't ever transport my SBR,s out of state. Just thought I might pass this thought along to those who have or are looking at picking one up.
bullit:
But never forget the 4th Amendment that unless the LEO can present Reasonable Articulable Suspicion (RAS), Probable Cause(PC) or you are arrested, DO NOT allow them to search your vehicle .... and thus there is no problem ..... you are under NO obligation to inform the LEO you are legally (my word) transporting a gun(s) ..... (CHP informing per whatever that statesrequirement not withstanding)
66bigblock:
and then a "gun sniffing" dog will show up and "hit" on your vehicle, thus providing your probable cause...
66bigblock
UPCrawfish:
Studies and tests in 2009 on US and foreign currencies revealed that upwards of 90% of all paper bills had some trace amounts of cocaine on them. This would be sufficient to trigger a sniffer dog to "hit" on the vehicle or person then it would be a small leap to move to the next level. Search / arrest / confiscate / charge....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/17/cocaine-dollar-bills-currency-us
GreyGeek:
--- Quote from: 66bigblock on November 01, 2014, 10:33:53 AM ---and then a "gun sniffing" dog will show up and "hit" on your vehicle, thus providing your probable cause...
66bigblock
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Which is sad for several reasons. First, studies show that 80% of all "hits" are wrong, despite the fact that in Florida vs Harris the court said OK, under certain conditions, to dog "hits", and, since you have a constitutional right to face your accusers and question them, how does your attorney cross examine a dog?
Dogs noses are pretty good. For such failure rates to occur I suspect that the dog's nose is being overridden by the officer's desire to establish "probably cause" and thus 80% of all "hits" are actually misses because there is another bit of training that goes on after the dog's "official" training which teaches the dog to indicate a "hit" when it sees subtle signs from its handler. This does not include cases where the officer plants narcotics just to get some scum off the streets.
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