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RESULTS: IDPA Nebraska Indoor Match, November 8
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: mott555 on November 10, 2014, 08:56:10 AM ---What was everyone using for ammo/bullet type? One of the problems I had was I couldn't really see the holes made by my 9mm FMJ's and so I was never sure if I had my 2 hits in or not. But with some of the other shooters I had no problem seeing their target holes even from the back of the crowd. I assume many of those were .45's but I'm curious if anyone was using wadcutters or hollow points, something that cuts a larger hole than what I used.
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9mm 124gr Xtreme. I don't believe that a different bullet type (HP, wadcutter, etc) is going to make any difference in the size of hole on paper. Expansion shouldn't happen until it impacts the target and then only if the target has enough mass to cause the deformation. Any of those bullets will slice through the cardboard targets like a hot knife through butter resulting in identical (or very nearly so) sized holes.
ETA: I should add, as jthhapkido said, in those and other conditions, you are not likely going to see the holes. Another issue is that age makes it even worse. Part of being a good pistol shooter is knowing when you have a good shot (sites aligned, proper trigger, etc.) so that you can decide if you need to make up the shot without seeing the hole.
The action pistol sports (IDPA & USPSA) require accurate and quick shots. If you are watching for each hit as you shoot, then you are not focusing on the front sight which negatively affects the "accuracy" requirement. The other possibility is that you are adjusting your focus after each shot so that you can look for the hole, or after firing the required shots on a target, you are taking the time to focus on the target to see if you have the shots. There goes the "quick" requirement. Younger guys like jthhapkido may be able to visually transition from near to far very quickly, but it is not so easy for us guys that are a few years older. To tell you the truth, it has been a few years since I've had that younger crystal clear vision, so I don't know what I could have done back then. What I currently have to do is judge whether my shot was good or bad based on what I can see which are the sights and the blurred target in the background.
Hope to see you at the other matches. There are many other disciplines. Try the Rock'N Thunder (Thunder Alley), upcoming GSSF? (Thunder Alley), Tuesday evening IDPA (Big Shots every other week), Wednesday evening USPSA style match (Big Shots every Wednesday), Rock Your Glock (monthly spring through fall at Lincoln Izaak Walton League), and USPSA/Multi-Gun/Steel Challenge (at Eastern Nebraska Gun Club sponsored by Eastern Nebraska Practical Shooters).
Fly
Lorimor:
I was using the classic .45 cal lead SWC's. They cut nice big round holes in the target but still I couldn't see most of them in that lighting. Each shot I fired felt good, particularly the no-shoot hit. (my 4th and very much unneeded shot on that target) :) But with the plethora of hard cover some of my shots were "just out." Would've scored on open targets though. I need to up my standards.
I have a dickens of a time picking up the sights indoors in that uneven lighting sometimes. So, I have resolved for the next indoor shoot, the torch is coming out. Picking up the sight alignment will be MUCH easier, albeit at the expense of recoil management and speed (using some holds anyway)
And if I don't like my hits, full power mode will burn the targets to ash thereby destroying the evidence. :)
JTH:
--- Quote from: OnTheFly on November 10, 2014, 10:24:40 AM ---I should add, as jthhapkido said, in those and other conditions, you are not likely going to see the holes. Another issue is that age makes it even worse. Part of being a good pistol shooter is knowing when you have a good shot (sites aligned, proper trigger, etc.) so that you can decide if you need to make up the shot without seeing the hole.
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Younger guys like jthhapkido may be able to visually transition from near to far very quickly, but it is not so easy for us guys that are a few years older.
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Heh. Young? Appreciate the thought, but "young guys" is a descriptive more of people like SeanN (who is over 15 years younger than I am) than it is of me!
And my eyes AREN'T what they used to be. Darn it. The uneven lighting of the Thunder Alley indoor range really makes it much harder to see everything, including the sights.
In other words, it is a good test, since we normally try to get good light when we practice.
bullit:
How Lorimor sees anything is beyond me .... he uses "Cowboy Jakes EXTRA smokey Gun Powder" and coats his boolits with pig grease
SeanN:
As far as seeing your hits: Don't look for hits, watch your sights while you shoot! If your front sight was properly aligned with the rear sight as the trigger broke, you got a good hit. Trust your sights. :)
I saw mine dip a few times but decided not to take a makeup shot. I should have, however... I threw two into the hard cover (black) on one target, thankfully one was close enough to the perforation that I got credit for one "down zero" hit.
My feelings about people leaving, not being ready to shoot, having equipment issues, etc. is that I trust people to be responsible for themselves. If they are not, I'm not going to work super hard to help them out. Exceptions, of course, for those that have medical/physical issues that prevent them from being able to participate a lot of the time. I would strongly suggest bringing a folding chair and staying in the range, if possible, in those scenarios.
Thanks all for coming out, it was fun.
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