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IDPA BUG Match questions...
redleg1013:
8.2.6.1. Clubs may hold BUG matches where BUG guns compete in specially designed CoFs. BUG matches are club level only unless approved by IDPA Headquarters as a Specialty Match. To allow semi-automatic and revolver shooters to compete equally, all CoFs for BUG matches will be limited to five rounds per string, and firearms will start with five rounds maximum per string. No reloads may be performed on the clock.
JTH:
--- Quote from: redleg1013 on December 09, 2014, 11:00:32 PM ---8.2.6.1. Clubs may hold BUG matches where BUG guns compete in specially designed CoFs. BUG matches are club level only unless approved by IDPA Headquarters as a Specialty Match. To allow semi-automatic and revolver shooters to compete equally, all CoFs for BUG matches will be limited to five rounds per string, and firearms will start with five rounds maximum per string. No reloads may be performed on the clock.
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Yep. But that doesn't actually quite answer my questions above. :) The IDPA Nationals match FAQs (which I linked above) gave a number of good helpful hints, but the main question I still have is how many magazines are we going to need?
There is no reloading on the clock---but if a stage has 3 strings, people shooting semi-autos are going to need three mags. (Which mean I'm either going to have to find more pocket-pistol mags or not shoot a Beretta Tomcat or a PF-9.) We won't have time to have people reloading magazines between strings. I may be shooting a G26, though it means I have to find and collect all of my G26 mags, which I don't normally need since I use G17 mags for backups---but you can't do that at a BUG match.
At BUG Nats (like I said above) you never drew from a holster, so certain issues were then moot---but you don't HAVE to do it that way, which is why I'm asking what are the conditions for the upcoming match (which instead of December, may be held in January.)
It'll be interesting---don't think we've ever had a match like it around here, so it should be fun. But details help in terms of planning and being properly prepared. :)
redleg1013:
Well let's think about this... if there are no reloads on the clock, theoretically one could participate with one magazine, and reload in between strings; I mean how long does it really take to load five rounds? I understand the notion for expediency purposes, but then again we have had folks be johnny on the spot ammo hoppers for newcomers and I don't remember any matches going past noon.
Please note it is not my intent to be offensive in any way; it just seems that perhaps there is some over-thinking and fretting over a non-issue.
JTH:
--- Quote from: redleg1013 on December 13, 2014, 07:59:46 AM ---Well let's think about this... if there are no reloads on the clock, theoretically one could participate with one magazine, and reload in between strings; I mean how long does it really take to load five rounds?
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Actually, quite a lot of time. Most strings of fire (if only five rounds) are easily less than 10 seconds. It'll take longer than that to load a magazine (compared to simply switching magazines), so you are (minimum) going to be doubling the time it takes to shoot a stage.
(If you don't believe me, try it. Start with the gun empty and pointed, use a timer, and check how long it takes to simply insert a new mag and holster. Then, using a timer, check how long it takes to remove the mag, holster the gun, get ammo and reload five rounds, draw the gun, make ready, and re-holster. You'll be surprised how much extra time it really takes---particularly for people who AREN'T going to be trying to do it fast at a match.)
Recently, with over 20 people shooting two stages, we've already been running into time problems at the IDPA matches, as the range itself is supposed to be able to open up to general shooting by noon--and we have run past a couple of times now.
In general, for shooting matches, waiting for someone to load a magazine before each run simply isn't possible. At the very least, having two magazines (one to shoot, and one to pass back to reload) will probably be needed.
--- Quote ---I understand the notion for expediency purposes, but then again we have had folks be johnny on the spot ammo hoppers for newcomers and I don't remember any matches going past noon.
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So---two mags instead of one, bare minimum. (And many pocket guns only come with one magazine.) And it will still take extra time, because in the past when it has been done, the stage itself was longer, so the person loading had more time.
And the last two matches I've attended went past noon both times.
--- Quote ---Please note it is not my intent to be offensive in any way; it just seems that perhaps there is some over-thinking and fretting over a non-issue.
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Oh, not offended. But I've found that if the people shooting know what is expected of them, and know what to expect of the match, then you'll have many less issues during the match.
There's also a rather large difference between "preferring information and clarity" and "fretting". I've been to enough matches where I had to go in fairly blind, I'm pretty solid on the difference. :)
redleg1013:
OMG mountains and mole hills bring what you have and make due.
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