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DR4NRA:
--- Quote from: Dan W on December 14, 2014, 11:45:08 AM ---What's your point?
I am not NE Bull and I have always maintained that a code of conduct does not meet the requirement for conspicuous signage, and I have repeatedly acknowledged that Scheels management has OK'd CCW.
So if we have explicit permission from the Management of Scheels, how does that jive with the code of conduct for the mall?
The NSP administrative code strongly suggests that conspicuous signage should be placed at eye level on every public entrance to a place or premises. I interpret that to mean if I can not see any signage on the door to the store I am entering, then I am not in violation of the rule.
I am not required to roam the halls or the grounds looking for reasons to limit my freedom because conspicuous signage does not require one to search for it
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Testy aren't we.
What's your point?
First point is CC is exactly that, signage if non existent means I can carry. If asked to leave, I will.
looking for reasons to limit my freedom
The same Constitution that gave you that freedom, gave them the freedom to say Not Here.
So you be getting testy over limits on your rights, but you are more than willing to place limits on their rights under the same rule of law and the Constitution which is so often thrown out there.
Paradox is apparent.
You don't respect my rights, I don't respect yours.
Dan W:
--- Quote from: DR4NRA on December 16, 2014, 07:14:49 PM ---So you be getting testy over limits on your rights, but you are more than willing to place limits on their rights under the same rule of law and the Constitution which is so often thrown out there.
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How am I limiting their rights? I just don't think I have to limit mine beyond what the law requires, and the law requires "conspicuous signage" If they want to keep me out put up a damn sign on the door and I will shop elswhere.
bullit:
--- Quote from: Dan W on December 16, 2014, 09:44:34 PM ---I just don't think I have to limit mine beyond what the law requires, and the law requires "conspicuous signage"
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"Alright alright alright .... " -Matthew McConaughey :)
depserv:
I would say no signs means no restriction against CC. Kind of a moot point though since no one will know I'm carrying unless I have to defend myself, and if that happens they can claim that I was breaking their code all they want. I'm curious though about why they'd have that in their code but not post it. Maybe the code was written a long time ago and those who run the mall now just don't want to drive away customers by posting signs and don't care what the code says and don't want to go to the trouble of changing it. You don't see a lot of no guns signs in Lincoln, at least compared to other cities.
I have a question for those who lived in Omaha in '07. After the massacre at Von Maur a local resident told me that Westroads, including Von Maur, had no guns signs up. But when I went to the mall a few days later I didn't see any signs. It looks to me like the signs were quietly removed after the shooting, for obvious reasons. So is it true that there were signs before but not after the shooting? And were the signs put back up later? (I don't get to Omaha a lot any more.)
sjwsti:
I shopped at Westroads before and after the shooting, always used the south Von Maur entrance. Never saw a "no guns" sign posted.
- Shawn
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