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Improvements in NE gun laws I'd like to see
farmerbob:
--- Quote from: feralcatkillr on December 10, 2014, 04:18:41 PM ---This may be a useful analogy: I read in another forum about a bearded-weirdo hippie type hanging out in a California gun store then confronting every ammo / bullet buyer about whether they were aware that lead is killing the California Condor. If you were the gun store owner would you say Hippie Guy's first amendment rights trumped your rights to throw him off your private property?
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That seems to be an individual thrown out do to bad behavior, I think we are talking about not allowing an entire group of people for exercising their rights guaranteed by the constitution.
If you said no hippies in your business, it might be infringing, might be sued, look at what happened when someone didn't want to bake a cake for a gay couple. (Just saying)
Does it state in the constitution you have the right to be gay or a hippie??? I can show you exactly where it says shall not be infringed.
DR4NRA:
--- Quote from: feralcatkillr on December 10, 2014, 04:18:41 PM ---This may be a useful analogy: I read in another forum about a bearded-weirdo hippie type hanging out in a California gun store then confronting every ammo / bullet buyer about whether they were aware that lead is killing the California Condor. If you were the gun store owner would you say Hippie Guy's first amendment rights trumped your rights to throw him off your private property?
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Depends if the signage is right!!!!!
DR4NRA:
--- Quote from: farmerbob on December 10, 2014, 04:27:36 PM ---
That seems to be an individual thrown out do to bad behavior, I think we are talking about not allowing an entire group of people for exercising their rights guaranteed by the constitution.
If you said no hippies in your business, it might be infringing, might be sued, look at what happened when someone didn't want to bake a cake for a gay couple. (Just saying)
Does it state in the constitution you have the right to be gay or a hippie??? I can show you exactly where it says shall not be infringed.
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No, but the Declaration of Independence does, which predates the constitution.
We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; ...
Guess what ever makes you happy.
DenmanShooter:
--- Quote from: DR4NRA on December 10, 2014, 07:16:31 PM ---No, but the Declaration of Independence does, which predates the constitution.
We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; ...
Guess what ever makes you happy.
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In Jefferson's mind, and that of the framers, "the pursuit of happiness" had nothing to do with temporary pleasure, but rather with owning property and all that comes with it.
Just an FYI
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: farmerbob on December 10, 2014, 12:17:04 PM ---Our right to carry is a basic civil right, can you name any other civil rights private property owners aren't allowed to discriminate against bullit??? (I can think of several)
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