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ATF to reclassify armor piercing ammo
RobertH:
AR15 pistols to be exact. Its back door gun control. We gotta hit up our Federal Reps. We control congress, so why is this crapstill be pulled?!
Lmbass14:
--- Quote from: RobertH on February 17, 2015, 03:25:58 PM ---AR15 pistols to be exact. Its back door gun control. We gotta hit up our Federal Reps. We control congress, so why is this crapstill be pulled?!
--- End quote ---
Robert, it still happening cause nobody in Congress has balls to stand up against obama. They don't want to be a racist.
RobertH:
Yea, i know. :(
JAK:
If you read through the notice the ATF posted, the basis they claim for banning M855 ammunition is that it can be fired in a easily concealed handgun and will penetrate body armor and this represents a potential threat to law enforcement.
The first flaw in their argument is that body armor is rated as to what it will stop. To the best of my knowledge, no one manufactures concealable armor (what law enforcement wears) that is rated to stop 5.56 regardless of bullet composition. This also goes for any of the handguns that have been chambered in a rifle caliber.
The second flaw is the handguns that fire this ammunition are easily concealable. While it is possible to conceal one of these handguns, I would not call it easy, it is just easier then concealing a rifle in the same caliber.
What I am concerned about is that by using this argument, what else can be banned in the interest of law enforcement safety?
John K
AAllen:
First we need to understand what the laws are on AP ammo, from the NRA: The "existing laws" were adopted in 1986 and prohibit the manufacture and importation, for private use, of handgun bullets made of special, hard metals and (in a 1994 amendment) specially-jacketed lead bullets. These bullets were invented for use by law enforcement and military personnel. NRA helped draft the 1986 provisions and didn`t object to the 1994 amendment. (;18 U.S.C. 922(a)(7) and (8 ), and (b)(5), and 921(a)(17)(B) and (C))
As this quote says Congress has specifically outlawed the production of AP "handgun" ammo, and limited its ability to be sold. In doing this Congress has set a definition to what is Armor Piercing Handgun Ammo, specifically it must has a solid core made of one of several listed metals (M855 does not) or have a jacket made of certain materials (M855 does not have these) or have a jacket that is over a certain percentage of the bullets total weight (the jacket of M855 does not). So even though the ATF had M855 on an excepted list it appears that it does not meet the specific requirements in the law, so the ATF should not have the authority to ban it as AP Handgun Ammo.
This comes from several articles that I have read over the last several days, too much reading trying to understand, and I may be wrong on these points. But if I am would someone please tell me where I am, I am trying to understand the authority the ATF is claiming.
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