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ATF to reclassify armor piercing ammo
depserv:
--- Quote from: David Hineline on March 06, 2015, 03:25:13 AM ---President Regan the one who banned new machinegun ownership, is also the one who signed the laws against AP handgun ammo. So I guess we can keep blaming the Democrats if we want.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=37785
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I don't like everything Reagan did, but the good he did outweighs the bad. This law was based in a lie from the beginning, sold by the big lie machine called the liberal press. We didn't have cable then and Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet so countering the big lie campaigns of the liberal press was more problematic then. I don't know if Reagan and his team really did buy the lie the law was based in or if they just caved in to the pressure. The law that was passed and signed by Reagan though had been supposedly fixed by the NRA, which in my opinion also caved in to pressure from the liars in liberal media. Reagan and the NRA should have known that their attempts to fix a law that was fundamentally flawed would likely be betrayed by an anti-gun president down the road but apparently they didn't, or maybe they just thought any such betrayal could be dealt with. None of that matters now though, except to show the importance in not giving in to anti-gun bigots expecting them and their allies in the liberal press to be appeased. What matters today though is not who originally signed this bad law, but how it is being used today by the most anti-freedom president we have ever had.
The law against new machineguns was part of the Firearms Owners Protection Act if I remember right, which was a very good bill that had the machinegun ban added by unscrupulous enemies in Congress. Signing the bill was probably still a good thing, though the ban should have been stripped away first, and I don't know why it wasn't.
RobertH:
--- Quote from: depserv on March 06, 2015, 08:43:11 AM ---I don't like everything Reagan did, but the good he did outweighs the bad. This law was based in a lie from the beginning, sold by the big lie machine called the liberal press. We didn't have cable then and Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet so countering the big lie campaigns of the liberal press was more problematic then. I don't know if Reagan and his team really did buy the lie the law was based in or if they just caved in to the pressure. The law that was passed and signed by Reagan though had been supposedly fixed by the NRA, which in my opinion also caved in to pressure from the liars in liberal media. Reagan and the NRA should have known that their attempts to fix a law that was fundamentally flawed would likely be betrayed by an anti-gun president down the road but apparently they didn't, or maybe they just thought any such betrayal could be dealt with. None of that matters now though, except to show the importance in not giving in to anti-gun bigots expecting them and their allies in the liberal press to be appeased. What matters today though is not who originally signed this bad law, but how it is being used today by the most anti-freedom president we have ever had.
The law against new machineguns was part of the Firearms Owners Protection Act if I remember right, which was a very good bill that had the machinegun ban added by unscrupulous enemies in Congress. Signing the bill was probably still a good thing, though the ban should have been stripped away first, and I don't know why it wasn't.
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FOPA of 86 included the Hughes Amendment which outlawed new MGs, but it did allow ammo to be shipped to your house and a few other things, but that MG thing still makes me mad. I believe the Hughes Amendment was a last second thing that would allow it to pass and the NRA was ok with it. Another reason i dont like the NRA.
Phantom:
There might be a new Wrinkle on this too ... check this out.
(as reported today on Cam & Co NRAnews )
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/03/06/exclusive-atf-has-already-banned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761
66bigblock:
interesting article for sure.
So, what does this do to a person that is in possession of green tip once the atf makes it official that it is banned?
66bigblock
RobertH:
--- Quote from: 66bigblock on March 06, 2015, 04:00:13 PM ---interesting article for sure.
So, what does this do to a person that is in possession of green tip once the atf makes it official that it is banned?
66bigblock
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from what i have heard is this: it is illegal to manufacture or import, but you can sell/trade/possess just fine. some states have anti-AP rules.
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