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ILoveCats:
If "SHTF" is the mission and, say, $1000 is the budget, I always think that two rifles in two calibers is way wiser than one.  For the price of one Black Rifle I'd rather have a lever action 30-30 and a savage bolt action in .22 LR or WMR. There are also nice little bolt guns in 5.56 and 7.62 and the like. 

Understand, you might have to settle for gaudy wood rather than all that really expensive, tasteful plastic.

JTH:

--- Quote from: brandonhein on February 25, 2015, 08:26:30 AM ---Thinking of an AR .223/556 but they told me I can't hunt deer with that kind of round.  I need a rifle I can hunt deer with in case SHTF but I also need a rifle that I defend my family with too.
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I'm not sure who "they" are, but you can hunt deer in Nebraska (legally) perfectly fine. 


--- Quote ---Too bad they don't have an AR style rifle that holds 30/30 or 306.
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How about .308?  300 Blackout?  7.62x39?  Got all of those...


--- Quote ---Any ideas would be very appreciated.   Can't spend $1500 on a rifle. $500 up to $1,000 is my budget.  Am I screwed?  :)

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Not at all.  I'd start with a solid 16" .223 build.  Good all-around rifle, perhaps a variable 1-4X scope.

You can later buy other uppers (that are NOT guns according to the ATF) for different purposes, including putting a 300 blackout upper on your .223 lower.

If you want, you can instead go with an AR-10 as a .308 lower/upper combo, and again, later add whatever uppers you want for different purposes. 

The AR platform is really an excellent one for an all-around rifle.  I'd really suggest the .223 lower/16" lightweight upper for a start.  After that, you can customize as you like.

grumpy old man:

--- Quote from: jthhapkido on February 25, 2015, 11:28:01 AM ---I'm not sure who "they" are, but you can hunt deer in Nebraska (legally) perfectly fine. 

How about .308?  300 Blackout?  7.62x39?  Got all of those...


Not at all.  I'd start with a solid 16" .223 build.  Good all-around rifle, perhaps a variable 1-4X scope.

You can later buy other uppers (that are NOT guns according to the ATF) for different purposes, including putting a 300 blackout upper on your .223 lower.

If you want, you can instead go with an AR-10 as a .308 lower/upper combo, and again, later add whatever uppers you want for different purposes. 

The AR platform is really an excellent one for an all-around rifle.  I'd really suggest the .223 lower/16" lightweight upper for a start.  After that, you can customize as you like.


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I went to a gun store in Lincoln (wont say which) and was told the Nato round .223/ 556 is not a fast enough round or heavy enough round to legally shoot a deer in Nebraska.

I heard the AR10's are in the $1500 and up category. 

Thank you for your help.  I saw an AR15 .223 for mid $600 and I almost jumped on it but this gun shop told me you cant shoot a deer in Nebraska with that round. With that info I passed. 

Optics I will get later.  I would go with a good back site though one that flips up.  Magpul I think??

Any ideas on make and model?   Thank you all so much.

bullit:

--- Quote from: brandonhein on February 25, 2015, 11:43:59 AM ---I went to a gun store in Lincoln (wont say which) and was told the Nato round .223/ 556 is not a fast enough round or heavy enough round to legally shoot a deer in Nebraska.
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That is why you never ask a gun store clerk about hunting rules and regs (except Cruze Lauer and Randy Moeller) or a cop about the law ......

Mudinyeri:

--- Quote from: bullit on February 25, 2015, 12:09:56 PM ---That is why you never ask a gun store clerk about hunting rules and regs (except Cruze Lauer and Randy Moeller) or a cop about the law ......

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For deer and antelope, the rifle must be at least .22 caliber and deliver 900 ft lbs of energy at 100 yards (or .357 magnum rifle or .45 Colt rifle).

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