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Bill to Abolish the Death Penalty Advances!
Mali:
--- Quote from: Husker_Fan on April 06, 2015, 08:59:10 PM ---Why is it that we like to say "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" when the government wants to enact gun laws, but we ignore the references to being deprived of "life liberty or property" in the same constitution? If the government wrongfully deprives one person of their right to life, that is significant.
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Let's not forget that the same person has already done so to another human being by conscious decision. Although the decision to put this person to death is being set by the government, did not the accused already make that choice when they willfully and deliberately took another person's life?
This isn't just about that single person this is about that single person's decisions and actions.
Mudinyeri:
--- Quote from: Husker_Fan on April 06, 2015, 08:59:10 PM ---Why is it that we like to say "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" when the government wants to enact gun laws, but we ignore the references to being deprived of "life liberty or property" in the same constitution? If the government wrongfully deprives one person of their right to life, that is significant.
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The Bill of Rights is for law abiding citizens. When one chooses to commit a crime, one also chooses to give up some or all of one's rights. Following your logic, we should never jail anyone because it would deprive them of their right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Husker_Fan:
That's why I wrote "wrongfully deprives" someone the right to life. Innocent people have been executed and Alabama just exonerated its 30th death row inmate.
I have moral and religious problems with the death penalty but I'm setting those aside for now and just looks at the civic issues. Civilly, the government can execute. I happen to believe the piss poor way it has done so is reason enough to end the practice.
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Mudinyeri:
--- Quote from: Husker_Fan on April 07, 2015, 09:02:14 AM ---Innocent people have been executed ....
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Not a single person executed since the death penalty was reaffirmed in 1976 has been posthumously exonerated.
Husker_Fan:
By a court? Probably not. Dead people have no standing to appeal there convictions. There have been over a dozen, depending on the cases you accept, where it has happened.
One example is Cammeron Todd Willingham who was executed for deaths resulting from a fire he was accused of starting. After his execution in 2004 the state of Texas determined it wasn't even arson.
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