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KS - Funny thing on the way to Constitutional Carry
TwoSwords:
If you have been following news to the south, Kansas is a Governor signature away from Kansas Residents being able to carry concealed without a permit.
I was not surprised by the anti's arguments. They were the same tired ones, "You need training to drive a Car!" "It will be the Wild West." (When Preemptive Open Carry is already State Law) "Well Regulated"
No it was the CONCEALED CARRY INSTRUCTORS who came out against it that surprised me the most.
We are for 2nd Amendment freedoms, but not TOO much 2nd Amendment freedoms. When you insert Money into the equation, thoughts on things change.
The permit saves you from the 1000 ft school zone issue, that should be enough to sell it all by itself. But come out against it really?
I applaud the NE FOA efforts to move legislation in steps as Kansas did. Kansas is proof, baby steps work and a huge (R) majority doesn't hurt.
Just giving you a heads up what will happen if NE gets to this point. May as well here from all the instructors that are against Permit-less carry now.
I am not one of them.
http://www.neccw.com/docs/KS_vs_NE.pdf
AAllen:
TwoSwords, lots of people are trying to replicate Arizona version of getting constitutional carry. There they formed an organization that encouraged voluntary firearm education, and advertised where such education is available as well as shooting ranges etc. receiving some financial support from those instructors and ranges. Much of that model is what we are following here.
NE Bull:
Trust me Two Swords, I am watching everything in KS carefully. First- because it's 'home'.
Secondly, I have built a relationship with Patricia, the Pres. of the KSRA to pick her brain.
Here is a quote from an article she forwarded this morning that I think many of our members could learn from ('cause Lord knows they won't listen to me)
--- Quote ---“You’ll note,” Owens wrote earlier today, “that both Kansas and West Virginia were able to get as far as they have without obnoxious and intentionally provocative open carry demonstrations near schools, in the legislature, or in private businesses that unnecessarily added additional hurdles and gave gun control groups ammunition to fight against us. Tactics matter.”
“In both of these states,” he said, “supporters worked diligently and with resolve, while making sure not to do anything to generate or intensify opposition.”
That is an absolutely true statement and I’m darn proud of it. And I agree with this article. Some of the states where they’re conducting in your face activism should take a lesson from us.
http://www.examiner.com/…/kansas-legislature-passes-constit…
--- End quote ---
depserv:
I've heard of a case awhile back where dealers put capitalism above patriotism, so it isn't any surprise that some instructors might do the same thing. No thing or person is perfect. I don't know if he really did say it, but I've seen Lenin given credit for this statement: When the last free man is hung it will be a capitalist who sells the rope.
grumpy old man:
Not that I am a smart guy but I always figured one reason that would never pass in Nebraska is because CCW instructors would oppose it as it affects their bottom line. If you really want to know what people believe tell them it will have an impact on them financially and their sex life and see if they are still for it. If they are then they are true believers in the cause.
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