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Omaha and Pepper spray and Bars

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Sonicblaze:
So far it seems there are no laws saying I can't carry it with a BAC>.0000000001 or into a place "making more than 50% of their profit from alcohol sales"

barmandr:

--- Quote from: Sonicblaze on April 21, 2015, 07:42:27 PM ---I know OC may not work; however there are times I will and do enjoy drinking a beer. I those cases, I want _something_ as opposed to nothing.
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How about a knife?

depserv:

--- Quote from: barmandr on April 22, 2015, 03:12:04 AM ---How about a knife?
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A knife is questionable, since a knife will either do serious damage or it will do nothing, unlike pepper spray or a big stick.  However, carrying a knife for general purpose is something most men do, and if you are forced to defend yourself you use whatever is handy.  But it might get you in trouble, depending on the circumstances.

The problem with bars is that alcohol tends to make people ten foot tall and bulletproof, as well as obnoxious fools with really bad judgment.  A fight in a place like that is often not a clear cut case of self defense.  You might be perfectly sober and fine, but might get assaulted by some big strong drunk who's usually a nice guy.  So how do you stop that guy with a knife?  Maybe cut him and he'll cry and go home?  People get cut up pretty bad sometimes and still keep fighting.  And just being threatened with a knife is no guarantee the guy will leave you alone; in fact if I'm ever unlucky enough to have to use a knife to defend myself the guy will feel it before he sees it.  I'd rather hit the guy with a chair or something.  But I do carry a knife, and given the right circumstances I'd use it to defend myself I suppose.  But hopefully not against some drunken fool.

I knew a guy who carried a roll of quarters taped up to increase the power of his fist.  The increase in power is greater than you might think; my picture here, for example, is me breaking a cement block with a steel chisel (blunt end), which gives an idea of how much just a little bit of extra weight increases the power of a fist.  I'm guessing though that the roll of quarters would be considered a concealed weapon, especially if it was taped up, and it might make it look like you were looking for a fight.

I doubt there's a prohibition on carrying a steel flashlight, which can be said to have a nonweapon purpose.  I don't know if I'd want to bop somebody on the head with a flashlight I paid $80 for though.  Maybe outside in the dark a super bright light might blind an aggressor long enough to finish him off or get away.  And if I had to ruin my expensive flashlight to save my life I suppose I could make myself do it.

How about a heavy wooden cane and you walk with a limp?  I'd take a big stick over a knife any day.  And nobody's going to take away a guy's cane.  I see some high quality sword canes in the online catalog of Atlanta Cutlery, but one of those might get you in trouble.  Just a regular cane would probably be the best idea, as long as it's heavy enough and you know how to use it.

Mali:
Perhaps carrying a "tactical" pen?

I carry a pen all the time because I do a lot of note taking and need one, but it is made of aluminum has a textured surface and a glass break end.  It's thick enough that I can put it in my fist and reinforce a punch but small enough to be used comfortably as a pen.

Granted it is made by Uzi but it's still nice to have a tool in my pocket that can fit my needs without also being an obvious weapon like a roll of quarters. ;)

Sonicblaze:
I'd argue a tactical pen is still an obvious weapon due to its construction quality and design.  Don't remember where, but read that some places consider a tactical pen the same class of weapon as a knife, as both are lethal weapons designed for stabbing.

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