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Conceled carrying to NE question
barmandr:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on June 22, 2015, 04:10:11 PM ---Long Way from the Loveliest Village on the Plains.
War Dam Eagle.
And I hope that gentleman from MS who started this inquiry (d) becomes a hard-core, died-in-the-wool Happy Husker Fan just like all the rest of us.
sfg
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Speak for yourself...I'm a Happy Husker Hater.
midwestbound?:
Well, now that I have cleaned my shorts out... :o I guess I will give Omaha the widest possible birth. I mean come on with those laws. I stayed on a military installation for four months (legally) with my firearm without that much regulation and hassle.
--- Quote from: AAllen on June 16, 2015, 02:17:01 PM ---Depends upon where you are going, the City of Omaha requires their open carry or a concealed carry permit recognized by the State to open carry. The City of Lincoln does not have an ordinance against it but if the police get a call they will ticket someone for making a public disturbance. Some communities such as Blair have ordinances against the open carry of firearms.
As you can see there is a wide disparity in how open carry is viewed across the state and any discussion would need to be directed at exactly where you would be.
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Both applications are in Lincoln, I could phone interview, but that is not my preferred method.
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on June 22, 2015, 11:08:52 AM ---
Yeah..... Kinda odd.
MS is OK w/honoring NE permits, but not vice-versa.
Could be:
>Some kinda technicality or glitch-incompatibility in comparing the training requirements, or
>NSP just hasn't gotten around to it yet, or
>Some Auburn Guy @ NSP has a grudge about previous football game butt-kickings by Ole Miss,
Whatever.
Hope they fix it.
sfg
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As far as the issue of reciprocity I believe it is the levels of issuance not being equal. MS has a two tiered permit, the basic where you just pay your fee and get fingerprinted, then the enhanced which requires the training and range portion. It allows you to carry just about everywhere except federal property or an active courtroom. When it was clarified that OC was a constitutional right, everyone threw up signs. Then the AG released an opinion that city law can't restrict a state law, and that the signs would not carry the weight of the law. A business owner can ask you to leave and if you refuse you could be charged with trespassing, that's it. My philosophy has always been that I don't check my constitutional rights at a state line. That's why I won't consider CA, IL or the northeast for employment opportunities.
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on June 22, 2015, 04:10:11 PM ---Long Way from the Loveliest Village on the Plains.
War Dam Eagle.
And I hope that gentleman from MS who started this inquiry (a) gets a good job offer in Nebraska, (b) gets his NE CHP, (c) becomes an active NFOA Forum member, and (d) becomes a hard-core, died-in-the-wool Happy Husker Fan just like all the rest of us.
sfg
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a) Thank You b) I will for sure. I have the MS and TX before that c) of course, I'm active and exercise daily, my 2nd AMD right that is. d) Huskers? hmm, are they in the SEC East?
--- Quote from: Kendahl on June 16, 2015, 07:39:14 PM ---Although he probably doesn't have time for the paperwork before coming to Omaha, would a non-resident permit (Utah, Florida, etc.) solve his problem?
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The job announcements close today and interviews are normally two weeks or so afterwards :(
Thanks for your replies guys!! The amount of restrictions, and how the cities are able to just do their own thing is very concerning. I suppose the best thing to do is what SemperFiGuy suggested and leave my firearms at home and just hope that the one time I need them won't be on that trip. Lincoln should be safe though with all the gun laws right? ::) This is surprising, for whatever reason I thought the Midwest would be more accepting of firearms and personal freedom. I mean it sounds like you get harassed even if your a resident with a permit. I have a wife and three small kids, and she asks me routinely if I'm carrying, because it gives her peace of mind. I would hate to move to a place where my response would have to be "no, Big Brother won't let me". I'm sorry I know I'm preaching to the choir here though. So I know you guys might be a little biased but in your opinion what are the most gun friendly states/cities up that way as well as in NE? Cause it sounds like if I do move there, Omaha is to be avoided like the plague! If I have developed a wrong impression or misunderstood please correct me please.
Mali:
MB, many of us actually live n the suburbs and adjoining communities where we are not subject to the laws of Omaha until we enter city limits. The majority of communities here are gun-friendly unlike the two biggest cities in the state.
Once you have your CCP many of the issues with Omaha's laws go away.
SemperFiGuy:
--- Quote --- Omaha is to be avoided like the plague..........
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Yes. But only until you obtain your NE CHP, or a Florida or Utah permit which will be honored in NE.
Omaha's MuniCodes on handguns are really onerous. To Sum Up:
Omaha Open Carry:
Must complete a classroom/range qualification day-long training session and then apply for something called--strangely enough--a Handgun Identification Card [Omaha Open Carry Permit]. Qualification handgun must be registered in Omaha if brought in to Omaha. Then get ready to eat some dirt or get shot when the "Man With Gun" call goes in to 911, regardless of HIC/OC permit.
Omaha Handgun Registration (Not Applicable to NE CHP Holders/Pre-empted by State CHP Rules):
Focuses on the handgun as an object, not upon where the owner lives. The instant that a handgun enters Omaha city limits, it must be registered. No grace period. No 10 days/30 days to register. Must be registered NOW.
I asked Sgt. Farnoff of the Omaha Gun Task Force how this rather unusual situation is to be remedied. He said anyone bringing an unregistered handgun into Omaha must immediately head toward the Omaha Police Department station at 15th and Howard Streets to register the handgun. (Not sure of their open office hours, BTW.)
Otherwise, bye-bye handgun and the issuance of a citation.
So the above story is kind of a long-winded summation of certain Omaha handgun municodes, but they don't apply to NE CHP holders or those traveling through NE w/lawful out-of-state reciprocal permits.
Hope it all works out well for you.
sfg
midwestbound?:
--- Quote from: Mali on June 23, 2015, 04:20:17 PM ---MB, many of us actually live n the suburbs and adjoining communities where we are not subject to the laws of Omaha until we enter city limits. The majority of communities here are gun-friendly unlike the two biggest cities in the state.
Once you have your CCP many of the issues with Omaha's laws go away.
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Are any of these places around Lincoln? Cause that is where I would have to live. It's a shame that Omaha and Lincoln have seemed to take such an aggressive and oppressive stance against law abiding gun owners. I don't know how many criminals their laws have stopped, but they have effectively stopped me from visiting.
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on June 23, 2015, 05:10:09 PM ---
I asked Sgt. Farnoff of the Omaha Gun Task Force...
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"Gun Task Force"? I think that speaks volumes about the attitude of the city leaders towards legally armed citizens. So the citizens of Omaha are cool with stabbing each other to death, just as long as those evil guns aren't used? Please forgive my sarcasm, but the level of some peoples lack of logic blows my mind. I went to Mayor Jean's and the PD's website and they touted all the reasons I should come visit, but I won't because I don't feel like becoming a criminal just by crossing their city limits. If they insist on having such obscure and draconian gun laws it would be nice if they prominently displayed them on their websites to give people like me who try to obey the law a heads up. I'm strongly considering sending a letter to the mayor and police chief. And if I should get a job, and get my CCW there I think I will still not go to Omaha. I'm a gentleman, I can tell when I'm not wanted, so I will oblige them.
So once you get your CCW your good to go, or do you still have to check and make sure that your not violating the laws of every little city and town you go through? I'm already ticked that I wouldn't be able to carry when I go to church according to NSP's website. I don't know if I want to put up with the stress and hassle of figuring out if going to this city or that will make me a felon if stopped by an LEO. Down here when cities started trying to pull that crap the state AG said it violated the state's supremacy clause and that cities could only restrict carry on city property not entire city limits. Come on guys NE is in my top 5 of states to move to, surely there is some bright spots, tell me about the gun friendly cities and the efforts to push back against these restrictive laws. :-\
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