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"I bought a gun, what holster should I get?"
DenmanShooter:
I see it has either been some time since you have used a FOBUS holster or yours was mis-sized/ wrong style or you do not know how to adjust the retention.
My Fobus is solid, reliable, covers the trigger guard completely and the tension is adjustable.
Also, for first timers not getting into competition, a cheap Bulldog holster works fine for range and practice. After becoming familiar with their weapon, gaining confidence and meeting more experienced shooters and having the opportunity hopefully to meet other shooters and see what they have, they can spend the bucks for a better holster with confidence they won't be wasting their money.
Other than that I say very good article.
ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: DenmanShooter on July 01, 2015, 07:27:29 PM ---I see it has either been some time since you have used a FOBUS holster or yours was mis-sized/ wrong style or you do not know how to adjust the retention.
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I've had three ... uh ... Fobuses? Fobi? They were all quite different. The wife's SR-22 version is great and tension adjustable. An LCP one was "ok" but gets little use because that's a pocket gun and, well, there's rarely any point in carrying an LCP OWB. One for a Smith J-frame 642 was awful. It wasn't adjustable are required a lot of modification. The first time I put the gun in there I thought I'd have to simply break it apart to ever get it out.
Yes, I can bring myself to buy a plastic holster on occasion. It's actually not a bad invention, 'cause I hate how leather can tend to squeak on your belt.
JTH:
--- Quote from: DenmanShooter on July 01, 2015, 07:27:29 PM ---I see it has either been some time since you have used a FOBUS holster or yours was mis-sized/ wrong style or you do not know how to adjust the retention.
My Fobus is solid, reliable, covers the trigger guard completely and the tension is adjustable.
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That surprises me greatly, because I see Fobus holsters all the time in classes and various competitions. I have yet to see a single one that covered the trigger guard like it was supposed to, and I see people fighting to get the gun out of the holster at competitions quite frequently. I find it unlikely that every single one of them couldn't figure out how to adjust the tension, or bought one for the wrong gun.
I am kind of curious as to how you would adjust the tension on this one, by the way: http://www.zahal.org/products/fobus-holster-for-sig-pro-sg-pro
I realize the description says it has a tension adjustment screw, but I've got one like that in a box somewhere (I use it as a negative example in classes) and there is certainly no adjustment anywhere on it. There are even entire YouTube videos on how to try to adjust the tension on the various versions of Fobus holsters that don't have adjustment screws. Now, there are some versions of Fobus holsters that have adjustment screws---but at least one entire line of their holsters does not. You are stuck with what you get--and many people have written many things about tension issues.
And like I said, pretty much every single one looked something like this:
or this
Matter of fact, doing a cursory image search, almost all of them DON'T cover the trigger guard like it should, with respect to their main types of holsters (Standard, Roto, and Evolution series).
--- Quote ---Also, for first timers not getting into competition, a cheap Bulldog holster works fine for range and practice.
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Hm. I'm not familiar with those, and upon searching I can only find the Amazon page for "bulldog holsters" which includes a couple of belt slides in leather, and a number of nylon generic holsters which I would strongly NOT suggest to anyone.
Generic nylon holsters that aren't molded to the specific gun like this one: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Bulldog-Extreme-Belt-Holsters/708189.uts
generally tend to not secure the gun well during reholstering, allow the gun to move around during normal movement such as walking, etc, and since the gun can move it means more issues while practicing the draw stroke.
While the link I gave has a holster that includes a strap, that particular type doesn't disengage easily, and so most people when practicing their draws will leave it unsnapped--getting us back to the "gun unsecured" situation.
I strongly discourage people from using holsters like that.
--- Quote --- After becoming familiar with their weapon, gaining confidence and meeting more experienced shooters and having the opportunity hopefully to meet other shooters and see what they have, they can spend the bucks for a better holster with confidence they won't be wasting their money.
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Completely agree.
tstuart34:
I will admit I picked up a fobus with my first pistol. It was a SR9. The gun fit pretty well but was not smooth on the draw. I think some of this had to do with the paddle. It did not lock on the belt tightly and allowed the belt to twist a lot. I ended up moving to a pan cake kydex holster that I made on my own.
On another note. I haven't had time to make my dad a holster for his 21. We shot IDPA a couple weeks ago. And he really struggled with the cheap bulldog that he picked up at Basspro the night before. I still haven't made it even though it's sitting in my safe right now.....
I think Jthhapkido has vdry good point. The holster He recommend are well worth the value. I don't think people starting out will feel screwed by purchasing one of these. Even if they choose to move to a better EDC holster or a better competition rig they still have something sturdy and reliable. And could be used for either of the situation required.
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JTH:
--- Quote from: tstuart34 on July 01, 2015, 10:06:49 PM ---I will admit I picked up a fobus with my first pistol. It was a SR9. The gun fit pretty well but was not smooth on the draw. I think some of this had to do with the paddle. It did not lock on the belt tightly and allowed the belt to twist a lot. I ended up moving to a pan cake kydex holster that I made on my own.
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Lots of people get a Fobus for their first holster, because they are cheap, most gun stores stock them, and they look (while in the package) just as good as any other holster.
It isn't like most gun stores let us try the gun in the holster, so people can't actually see what the retention, or the belt stability, or the trigger guard cover is like. (And most people, while wearing the holster, can't see what the trigger guard cover is like so they don't ever notice unless someone points out that their holster isn't going to be legal at a USPSA match.)
--- Quote ---On another note. I haven't had time to make my dad a holster for his 21. We shot IDPA a couple weeks ago. And he really struggled with the cheap bulldog that he picked up at Basspro the night before. I still haven't made it even though it's sitting in my safe right now.....
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Nylon sack holsters are normally pretty scary for ROs, SOs, and instructors of classes.
I keep thinking of trying my hand with some kydex just for fun---then I realize that I don't have enough time for all the hobbies I currently have. :) Pretty cool that you roll your own!
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