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shooter:
  well trump has released his stand on gun control, it sounds pretty good,    im just so used to being lied to that im not sure about this,

  http://conservativetribune.com/trump-plan-2nd-amendment/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TheFederalistPapers&utm_content=2015-09-18

Mudinyeri:
From Trump's book, The America We Deserve


--- Quote ---It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. After a tragedy like the massacre at Columbine High School, anyone could feel that it is too easy for Americans to get their hands on weapons. But nobody has a good solution. This is another issue where you see the extremes of the two existing major parties. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
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Mntnman:

--- Quote from: Mudinyeri on September 23, 2015, 03:28:27 PM ---From Trump's book, The America We Deserve


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Shoot! Many or most of the people in THIS group support some kind of infringement. 

bullit:

--- Quote from: Mntnman on September 23, 2015, 04:17:40 PM ---Many or most of the people in THIS group support some kind of infringement
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You wrote it ....  care to be specific?

depserv:
Trump says he no longer supports a ban on so-called assault weapons.  Whether he's telling the truth or not is hard to say, since a businessman is probably about as likely to lie to you as a politician.  But to put a clear, unambiguous position in writing would make it hard for him to go back on it.  That's almost as strong a statement as saying something like "read my lips, no new taxes!" and then raising taxes (what kind of an idiot would do something like that?).  A good businessman would know better than to tell such a blatant lie to his customers, or at least I'd hope he would.

I think a lot of people supported the ban in the beginning because of widespread ignorance perpetrated by the big lie machine called the liberal press.  In the time since then loyal Americans have gotten the truth out about it.  Even the Supreme Court, in its Heller Decision, stated that the Second Amendment does apply to military-style weapons.  So it's not unlikely that a person who wasn't paying much attention to the issue at first would change his mind on it after the truth became widely known.

Since we've seen so many liars I'm not sure about Trump, but he's my first choice at this point, for these reasons:

*He has more executive experience than any of the others (probably more than all of the others combined), and the businesses he ran were successful. 

*He's a good negotiator, and is likely to negotiate better treaties and trade deals.

*He has promised to stop and reverse the invasion of third world poor into our homeland, which no one else is promising to do.  This might be the most important issue of our day.  (For those who might not agree with this, read Ann Coulter's book Adios America.)

*He is hated more than any other candidate by the liars of the liberal press, and the RINO establishment doesn't like him either.  Who a man's enemies are says much about his character.  If Liberal bigots and their eunuch RINO enablers are both yelling at us to stop supporting this man, it means that at least they think he's a loyal American who will be a good or even great leader, and they probably know something about him.

*He stands up to the PC thought police and does not let himself get bullied by the liberal press.  I have long said that the only hope for the survival of America as a free republic is for a leader to rise among patriots who will stand up to the liars of the liberal press, and fight back against the America-hating liberal cult.  One who will let himself be bullied into submission by the liberal thought police is not qualified to be president of a free people.  So at a minimum, Trump is one of very few who is qualified, at least in this regard.

On the down side, he's inarticulate and a poor debater; he talks in generalities and gives few details.  His answers to questions are almost always some version of this : I'm really really good, and I'll do a really good job on this.  But you don't have to be a good debater or articulate to be a good leader.  And if he remains popular, I'd say he'll probably be giving specifics as we get closer to the nomination.  He already gave us fairly specific answers on gun control, and has promised to have a tax plan out soon for our consideration.  Give him time and I'm betting more statements will come out. 

But as I said, he might just be a good businessman telling us what we want to hear, who will then do whatever he wants to do after he gets in.  That doesn't seem likely though.  So for now at least I remain one of his supporters.

I also like Dr. Carson, though not quite as much.  Dr. Carson also said once that he (kind of) supported some kind of ban on so-called assault weapons, and now says he does not.  I give him the benefit of the doubt on this just as I do for Trump: his original position was probably based in ignorance, and as the truth has slowly come out about the issue and these men took a closer look at it they decided they had been mistaken, and so reversed their decision.  I like Carson's speaking style way better than Trump's; as a lifelong martial artist I've noticed that the really calm guy is often really good.  You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be President, but it sure can't hurt anything.  I think Carson could make a great president; I just like Trump better.  If Trump does get in, I'd like to see Dr. Carson as Surgeon General, and I think that office could rise exponentially in prominence and do a great deal of good under his leadership.  Then maybe he could be President eight years later.

If I remember right GOA endorsed Cruz.  There is no question that Cruz would be a good or great president.  And he has a proven record.  The only reason he isn't my first choice is that I like Trump better.  Maybe a Trump/Cruz ticket would be good.

Most of the Republicans running look good, though there are a few RINOs among them, and Christie especially has a record of supporting gun control as an elected official.  When he claims to be a patriot on the issue now I have a hard time believing him.

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