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m morton:
if a place servers alcohol as a bar or a restaurant as a card holder /a ccw  you may not consume alcohol while carrying any ways so not really an issue for me if i am going to drink i lock my gun in a box... and don't remove it till i am home.  but if it's a restaurant i bring it in. if it's posted i drive to the next place ...

Mudinyeri:

--- Quote from: m morton on February 22, 2016, 04:49:51 PM ---if a place servers alcohol as a bar or a restaurant as a card holder /a ccw  you may not consume alcohol while carrying any ways so not really an issue for me if i am going to drink i lock my gun in a box... and don't remove it till i am home.  but if it's a restaurant i bring it in. if it's posted i drive to the next place ...

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^ Pretty much this.

Another "test" that one might use would be one's receipt for the purchases from the establishment.  Since no reasonable person could expect an individual to audit the books of an establishment before entering, a receipt showing no alcohol purchases might be something of a defense if there ever was a prosecution.

depserv:
I don't know what debate might have led to the insertion of this nonsense into state law, but I suppose it might be (or have been) argued that even if the one carrying is not himself drinking, having anyone carry a gun in a place where others are getting drunk is a threat to public safety, because even one not drinking might be forced into a bar fight, and someone ends up getting shot who otherwise might have only gotten a black eye.  I don't agree with that argument, but it might be why they wrote the law the way they did, when what they should have done is simply treat carrying under the influence the same way they treat driving under the influence.  Or I should say the excuse they used, not the reason; the reason is simply to harass those who choose to be armed. 

UseofForceLawyer:

--- Quote from: m morton on February 21, 2016, 01:32:41 AM ---i use this as my rule... if the place has "bar"& grill in the name i don't carry or a bar that server just fried foods no real menu . if it's a sit down place to eat and serves booze too then i enter ... 

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This is a pretty good "best practice."

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